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Gypsy Wolf 06-07-2010 22:51

AKC Group Classification
 
Right now the vlcak is tentatively classified by the AKC as a Herding Group breed. I am guessing because it has GSD ancestry - perhaps due also to how FCI classifies the breed?
In reality, the breed was designed to be a Border Patrol dog - not a sheep herding dog. That purpose fits into AKC's Working Group, not Herding.
Vlcaks are still in FSS - I would like to petition AKC to move them into the Working Group classification.
Anyone have comments? Support? For or against?

soniakanavle 07-07-2010 05:06

I agree. They should be in Working, not Herding.

17-07-2010 13:34

I totally agree and would support changing it. :) (If it would even mean anything, coming from someone who doesn't even own a CsV! haha)

Gypsy Wolf 17-07-2010 17:42

<Grin> "OWN" a CsV? I thinks she owns ME! I think I like the "Working Group" because I have to WORK to keep up with her!

Pavel 18-07-2010 17:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lunas Mom (Bericht 312633)
Right now the vlcak is tentatively classified by the AKC as a Herding Group breed. I am guessing because it has GSD ancestry - perhaps due also to how FCI classifies the breed?

FCi have not "Working" group. CsW is in FCI Group I. - Sheepdogs and Cattle Dogs (except Swiss Cattle Dogs). See http://www.fci.be/nomenclature.aspx. FCI sorted breeds most according origin, not actually using. "Working breeds" are breeds from many FCI groups, they need for champion title some exams. But term "working breed" is not officially name by FCI.

GalomyOak 18-07-2010 18:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pavel (Bericht 315300)
FCi have not "Working" group. CsW is in FCI Group I. - Sheepdogs and Cattle Dogs (except Swiss Cattle Dogs). See http://www.fci.be/nomenclature.aspx. FCI sorted breeds most according origin, not actually using. "Working breeds" are breeds from many FCI groups, they need for champion title some exams. But term "working breed" is not officially name by FCI.

That's what I figured. Most of our "working group" breeds fall under FCI molossoids/pinschers, or the herding group. Pavel, do you think, in this case, it would be acceptable with the FCI and the Slovakian and Czech breed clubs for the AKC to switch the breed from the herding to the working group? It doesn't make too much difference now, since the FCI does not recognize the Foundation Stock Service of the AKC for pedigrees. But one day, when we have full AKC recognition and the FCI will reciprocate with us, I don't want there to be any problems.

Thanks! :)

Marcy

Pavel 18-07-2010 20:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by GalomyOak (Bericht 315303)
Pavel, do you think, in this case, it would be acceptable with the FCI and the Slovakian and Czech breed clubs for the AKC to switch the breed from the herding to the working group?

I dont know the sorting system of AKC. If you need some help or assistance, you can contact Czech and Slovakian Club and ask there directly.


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