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Philippe 29-01-2003 16:32

Etalons
 
Bonjour r tous,

Margo PERON me charge de vous transmettre le message suivant :

===========
ETALONS

Nous avons finalement une nouvelle liste d'etalons (Przemek a modifie le script, et maintenant, il prend en compte non seulement les contraintes de la Republique Tchcque, mais aussi celles des autres pays). C'est beaucoup plus clair, et plus facile d'utilisation :)

http://www.wolfdog.org/php/modules.p...&file=studdogs

Une remarque : si vous ne trouvez pas votre chien dans la liste, envoyez moi un email et je l'ajouterais. Il y a seulement deux conditions r cet ajout:

1) votre chien doit avoir une autorisation de reproduire dans votre pays

2) le resultat du contr=F4le d'exemption de dysplasie de la hanche doit etre superieur r HD-C (2/2). Sans ce resultat, nous ne pourrons ajouter votre chien r la liste des etalons...

Cordialement

Margo
=============

Cordialement

Philippe

patriciafremont 30-01-2003 21:40

Etalons
 
Bonjour r tout le monde

Nous possedons une chienne tchcque CHANTAL EDEN SEVERU, nous venons de l ire
le message de Margo. Pour information, qui doit donner l'autorisation de
production ou non, comment definir un etalon

Merci Patricia

Philippe 03-02-2003 10:45

Etalons
 
Bonjour,

Puisque personne ne repond, je m'y colle...

Concernant l'autorisation de reproduction, en France, =E7a n'est ni plus, ni
moins que la confirmation.

La definition d'etalon pourrait bien etre differente selon le club de
race...
Ainsi, pour le Siberian Husky, un chien peut obtenir le titre d'etalon (A ou
B) recommande quand un nombre defini de ses descendants, issus d'un nombre
minimum de femelles, a ete recommande lors de la Nationale d'Elevage. La
lice
est le titre equivalent decerne aux femelles...

Si Christa Lochner pouvait confirmer, corriger ou complcter mes propos, j'en
serais ravi!

Philippe

max 03-02-2003 17:54

Rep:Etalons
 
Salut r tous,

ici en Rep. Tchcque on fait une demande aux responsables de la race
qui vont conseiller certains chiens par rapport r la femel le. Ensuite
on voit avec une liste d'etalons lesquels ont le plus de c hances de
gommer les defauts eventuels de la femelle par rapport r leur code
de bonitation et celui de leurs ancetres si disponible. Pu is enfin
on se base sur les critcres de taille et d'esthetique du m=E2le suivant
ce que l'on cherche r obtenir, afin de diversifier tout en respectant
les rcgles definissant le standard de la race.

Voila a+
Max

Margo 13-09-2007 00:14

Stud dogs - IMPORTANT!!!!
 
New changes are coming... maybe even improvements..

Because a number of stud dogs increases rapidly - in some countries the requirements for studs are minimal (sometimes it's enough when the dog has pedigree - sometimes even that is not required). So in order not to loose breeders' precious time we decided to make their life easier and we did some "screening". So....

1**** from stud dogs listing we removed PERMANENTLY all dogs that contains unknow ancestors in their pedigrees. It means that wolfdog.org will NEVER advertise litters coming from ancestors of doubtful origin (it affects dogs that are registered with unknown origin).

It involves also 'MUTARA's (and their italian 'version') - NONE of their offsprings (even when 'Mutara' will be in 50th generation) will not be advertised. Also NONE of the litters where the breeder owns so called Mutaras (illegal wolf crossings) or Mutara offsprings. This will be programmed into the site.
In the future database every database card of EVERY dog that contains unknown ancestors will have notice that WARNS before its possible use in breeding... Wolfdogs are not a "natural" breed which was developing for centuries and you can't meet them in "nature". We know origin of EVERY wolfdog and we do not need unknown individuals which can bring potential faults in health, exterieur and character...

2**** from the stud dogs listing we remove all dogs that do not have HD results (Hip Displasia). This requirement is fundamental - every responsible breeder will not breed on dogs without HD results independently of requirements in their country.

At the same time all dogs with HD results that are not confirmed will disappear too. So if your dog has stud dogs status, has HD results and it does not appear on the list we ask you to contact us and send copy of OFICIAL HD results....

SANDRINE30 13-09-2007 14:16

la version française c'est possible. Cela devrait être automatique. Il faut toujours pleurer pour avoir des renseignements

Claude.Bordet 13-09-2007 18:38

Margo tu a enlever les hd de mes chiens je t' avais tout envoyer .je ne le ferais pas une autre
fois .les tans et HD on disparue des mes chiens ou ils son faut ,
je suis d' accord que tu face le trie mais toi évite de tout effacer car j' ai toujours scanner les feuilles de
résultat de HD et tan de mes chiens, pourquoi tu a tout enlever , je tes envoyer aussi tout
les nom et numéro de lof de la porté de cefeida x ares et il y a rient , arya jantarowa wataha n' ai
même pas rajouté a mon élevage.
tu peut tout retiré mes chiens de ton site forum , sa me dérange pas car mes chiens sons en
règle moi .
Claude.
Margo you has to remove the hd of my dogs I t ' had to send everything .je would not make him(it) the other one
Time tan and HD one disappeared of my dogs or they sound needs,
I am of agreement that kept silent face sorts out him(it) but you avoid erasing everything because j ' always have scanner the sheets of
HD's result and tan of my dogs, why kept silent has to remove everything, I your to send also everything
Name and number of windward side of her(it) carried(worn) of cefeida x ares and it(he) has laugh there, arya jantarowa wataha have
The same added step has my breeding.
You can quite removed my dogs of your site forum, disturbs(disorders) his(its,her) me not because my dogs sounds there
Rule(ruler) I.
Claude.

Margo 13-09-2007 23:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Margo (Bericht 104435)
New changes are coming... maybe even improvements..

I wrote it wrong way... 8) We have equality of rights for the same apply also to females... ;) Females with UNKNOWN origin and without HD-results will be no more marked as "breeding bitches".

IMPORTANT - breeders which own females without HD-check will DISSAPEAR from the kennel list... I verified the results by ENCI and removed ONLY females which are not in their database... So most of you do not have the reason to worry about... :)

So - if you have a stud dog with HD-check and he is NOT on the stud dog list 'Elenco dei riproduttori'
....OR.....
you are a breeder and you are not on the kennel list 'Allevatori'
please get in contact with us so we can fix it....


About the HD-results - you can submit them on three different ways:
1) You can scan the result and send it via email
2) You can make a photo of the result and send it via email
3) you can make a copy and send it as a letter to us

Claude.Bordet 14-09-2007 00:15

je ne vois pas pourquoi je referai se que j' ai fait , si il y a une personne qui s' amuse a bloqué
mes messages que je tes envoyer ces pas très intelligent ,
je suis très déçu de voire les HD et TAN de mes chiens qui on disparu car a chaque fois j' ai envoyer
la copie par e mail , je me répète .
Arya pourquoi elle n' ai pas dans mon élevage .
mes chiots on pas de non j ' ai tout envoyer .
salutation mon ami Margo .

I do not see why I shall redo that j ' made, if there is a person who ' amuses blocked(surrounded)
My messages that I your to send these not very intelligent,
I am very disappointed with even the HD and TAN of my dogs which one disappeared because has every time j ' have to send
The copy by e mail, I repeat.
Arya why she(it) have not in my breeding.
My puppies one not of not j ' have to send everything.
Greeting my friend Margo.

Margo 15-09-2007 14:28

The whole story with verification of the HD results is nothing new... Please look here:
http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5447
Everybody had 6 MONTHS time to send us the results to verify them... It is a very long time expecialy that there were several possibilities to gave them to us... Even in person.... 8)

ALL not verified results were (and more will be) removed. It is not if we trust someone or not. Even our friends (or puppy owners) had to make the verification .- they had to send us the scanned copies even if we already SAW the results by our own eyes. There is one rule for EVERYONE...

About the updates of the database - as I wrote several times we have still problems because of the modernization of Wolfdog.org. Not everything will be updated so fast as before...till we finish the work on the database... Sorry but it is so.... :|


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