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Old 18-12-2008, 22:44   #83
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If we see in the correct point CzW breed have fell lines and if you see most part italians, Passo del Lupo, Crying wolf, Villa D'oria and maybe Kysucká hviezda, all other so called lines are nothing more than interessing mates, like Tambury.

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Originally Posted by Michaelundinaeichhorn
Ok, Falco got blind at the age of 5 or 6 years and his niece Argenta Zelena Voda around the same age.
This is the tipical information really important that everyones try hidden.
So, we have Glaucoma problem in the breed, if Falco and Argenta had this problem means it comes from Klea, from Klea litter only Krasna (and Klea) was used as stud, do you know if another brother or sister of Krasna had glaucoma problems?
Knowing this problem we already know that wouldn't be secure for the puppies make any litter with the blood % upper in K Ruskov Dvor CS litter.

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Originally Posted by Loco
But this breeder has 3 dogs out this litters, do you not think he has a reason why he did not breed on with this dogs out of those litters?
Scorpion is Chryptorchid.
Sara is Displasic
Lack one?

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Originally Posted by Loco
Or is just only the line that must be kept alive, and really the rest is not inportend?
And can we take out lines in CzW?
All CzW are parents, one more closed than other, another more far away than others, but all they are parents, the breed born of only 5 bloodlines and that is the problem.
For people have a little idea about the problem, FCI today only recognize breeds wich have more than 8 different bloodlines.
Some dogs and litters will show problems, some because bad selection like a huge inbreeding, some because accident, the ill appear in the litter, unexpected. But these problems shows only problems wich hole breed have and can appear, and the worst, will appear with the time when the line get more and more close.
What save the breed t'ill now was the good conscience of the origin countries and of some breeders wich don't make (or the clubs don't allow ) clone litters, different parents in every litter help to increase the genetic pool of the breed.
Some litters, some even of pretty famous dogs have brothers or sisters with health problems, chryptorquidism, displasy, hearth problems, epilepsy and maybe some others that we cannot nor imagine, commonly we only know the healty dogs and use it, if you see by line, and start use only healty line wich make only healty puppies in few times even this line will start to show problems because the consanguinty.

So, in this case the only thing that can we do is don't use the affected dogs, and in the case use carefully a healty brother, selecting with care for avoid close in the problematic blood.

Even if we open the line of the CzW with a new blood we will need much more than only one line and a lot of years for make really different lines for let the breeders make a more strong selection, taking out hole litter of reproduction if needed, taking out C dogs or any other "bloodline" wich we find problem.
Now, we can't do that.

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Originally Posted by Hanka
But blood of Rep is not so "interest"= good for rescuing . More interest is Atos z Belesova.
Anyway you will rescue the blood of Rep together... Atos Belesova is his son.
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