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Old 19-05-2011, 08:04   #25
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Luna won't go up and be friends with anyone she meets. Not because she is shy but because she won't be instant friends with anyone. If we wanted that we would have gotten a lab.
I never said that reserve indicated in the standard means shyness. A typical wolfdog is not a friend of all, but does not escape in panic at any unkown object or sound.

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I have *never* called them wolfdogs or wolf-hybrids nor will I ever call them that. This is why I'm calling the UKC club the "United Czechoslovakian Vlcak Club" (UCSVC) - and I was glad to see Marcy's club is the CSVCA (Czechoslovakian Vlcak Club of America). I've stressed that they are vlcaks and not wolfdogs or wolf hybrids (in fact, I stress this on my vlcak sites). There is a bad reputation here in the USA with 'wolf hybrids" (that's a different debate) and I didn't want the vlcak breed to be mixed in with that reputation.
Exactly for these reasons vlcaks owners should all be extremely careful what they write here. I may assure you lots of wolf maniacs read this site and use any trace of argument for promoting crossing CSV with wolves or CSV and wolves with other breeds. If you even innocently compare CSV with wolfdogs (which are uncomparable, because the latter is not a breed!), you give them a platform for argumentation. When I read that selection process is being carried on by wolfdogs makers, I don't know if we should cry or laugh. Those people know nothing about what happened in PS Kennel, how much misery, tragedy and death occurred there. I repeat it from time to time: only most unethical people may attempt to ruin the breed that came into being with such amount of suffering.

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BUT - there is wolf in the breed. Just like Saarloos and Lupi Italianos and (unofficially) German shepherds (moreso in DDR and Czech working lined dogs). I'm not going to deny that fact. ...... Yes, they are a vlcak and the vlcak is a breed on it's own.
Nobody denies wolf and GSD heritage in vlcaks, but still, as you say yourself they are dogs. I think Saschia explained it clearly enough.

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Luna is still training to be a service dog for Sara and she did PHENOMINAL in Orlando (even though she worked her rear end off). No weight support and it was mostly "dry" working (working without working). She kept up with us (even after very long days), even on hot days, and did OK with strangers during her breaks. She never freaked out when a server brought food or drinks to our table and managed crowds extremely well, we were very impressed with her. Luna is a great candidate to take over after Zorro.
Luna's had the best background any owner could dream of - good ancestry, caring, conscious breeder, good socialisation/training from the start. No wonder she's developing so well. I keep my fingners crossed for her just as for the whole first 'historical' US litter

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The temperament issues are with Pollux (who has washed out of the training program but we may give him another try this fall).
Pollux seems to be a great "lesson" for all who read WD. I'm sure many users appreciate that you write about him openly and share you worries and problems. No doubt Pollux has many positive features as any dog does, but his case shows how much heritage, individual personality and (early?) socialisation matter in case of vlcaks and how hard it is to predict when they are still pups what their final character and talents are.
Pollux is really lucky he has got you! I'm sure one day your efforts will bring great results, even if they may vary from Sara's friend's original plans and assumptions.
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