[Villulv]

What about different habits and tradition for treating "macho" dogs? Here in Sweden lots of the GSD and Rotweiler people treat and train their dogs either not at all or quite dominantly, with very little knowledge of wolves or dogs in general and their needs and behavior.
I think that our CW are far from "macho dogs" and they can=B4t be trained like that. Or explain me what is "macho dog".

What I refer to as "macho" is often considered GSD (or Alsatian Wolfdog , Rotweiler, Wolfdogs, "Hybrids", sometimes Mastiffs and their likes and by some Pit Bull. It=B4s not what I think, but what some people with low self confidence would expect from these types of dogs, most of them with no or low knowledge of anything that has to do with animals.

Very likely. The lack of competence in our dogowners is severe. But that would mean that Czech dogowners would be more aware of the importance of this, and I wonder what would be the explanation of that? What can we do to learn from the Czechs?
I think that every dog needs attention and training. The problem is that when golden retriever has lack of attention and training, it won=B4t be probably that visible and it won=B4t form that much his final character, like it would at CW. If the owners of CW here are more aware or not, this i can=B4t say. But here we make a lot of meetings, events, the summer camp, we meet at different competitions and tests. At all these places the owners meet and they can discuss the problems. We also try to manage to keep somehow in contact with the owners of CW around us, to meet and train together etc.
For example, i live in Plzen, so i know almost all wolfdog owners in Plzen and around (some owners do not want to co-operate), and we all visit the same training place, or we meet at some occasions. With most of them we are good friends and we visit each other often. When there come a new puppy to the area, i am informed about it by Pavel or by the breeder and i contact them and offer help and advices of all of us, i offer the chance to meet and to visit the training place.

This sounds like music to me. This is how it always should be (with all dogs), but probably it=B4s easier to manage this much contact when the breed is quite small.

And that is a fact for any breed, I would say...that far from the wolf isn=B4t any dog. We would have much less problemdogs altogether with more knowledge and interest of breeders and owners. People looking for a puppy should be more careful of choosing the right breeder than they usually are, probably due to lack of competence with the future dogowner. My oppinion is that the Kennel Clubs and/or authorities unfortunately aren=B4t enough concerned with educating, controlling and following up the breeders nor enlighten dog owners, maybe because they themselves lack in competence?
I think that every future owner of any kind of dog, should inform himself first about all the pluses and minuses of the choosen breed, about it=B4s needs, about how to train it, so that he can see if he=B4s able to own such dog.
If i want to buy car, i must have driving licence first. If i want to have dog, i must know how to take care of it.

But it's sad that it's so hard to get any response for introducing a "drivers licence" for dogs...this should not be optional when you buy at least breed puppies.

Lots of people buy CW because it looks like wolf, but they have absolutely no idea about what it needs and how to treat it.

This is what I meant with "macho" dogs...people who want to rise the status with a "fierce" looking dog.

If they don't get help and advice, they most likely will rise shy and problematic dog, which will end in some rescue center, or at the best will return to it's breeder.

Here, they would most likely be put asleep quite soon.

This i can't agree at all. Maybe it can work with GSD, to start to train it in two years, but never with CW. The wolfdog is the most receptive to training up to his first year of age. So the socialisation and training (according to age of the puppy) must start immediately after getting the puppy.

But this is exactly what I mean - YOU as a owner MUST start immediately when you get the puppy, but this isn't enough - if the breeder hasn't been competent the first two months of the puppy's life (wich is most essential) can spoil a lot to my opinion.

Maybe here is the problem? That some owners wait for the "good time to start" so long, that they miss the best period?

This is very common, at least here. I don't know of many owners who doesn't whait until the class at the dog club starts...which can be several months ahead...they simply doesn't understand that they need to be a pack leader from the start.

Sanna