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27-06-2011, 23:28 | #81 | |
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Well, I don't have anything against French breeders or any reason to support Admin (I'm not even a breeder..) but I think one simply needs to read carefully.. all the answers are here, as far as I can tell?
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27-06-2011, 23:35 | #82 |
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I wait from antswers in Admins question, but i think.. we very long for this wait. Ariminium maybe you make this?
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27-06-2011, 23:38 | #83 |
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si vous regardez un peu ckinay, et ses parents, vous verez qu'il y a beaucoup de ressemblance, si vous arretiez un peu de dire n'importe quoi.....
merlin crying wolf et ossa criyning wolf la forme des yeux, l'implantation, la couleur, la taille,le masque, l'implantation des oreilles s'il y avait eu un mariage avec unkas, ne croyez vous pas que le chien aurait eu des signes de AWD ???? mais regardez plus loin , vous êtes bornés, vous prennez les paroles de ADMIN comme paroles d'évangile if you look a little ckinay, and his parents, you will see there is a lot of resemblance, if you stop just to say anything ..... merlin crying wolf and wolf criyning ossa eye shape, placement, color, size, mask, ear implantation if there had been a marriage unkas, do not you think the dog would have been signs of AWD?? but look further, you're limited, you take the words as gospel ADMIN |
27-06-2011, 23:58 | #84 | |
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why you think people begin speak about falsh pedigree this dog, when HE is diferent like his genetic line. and maybe you antswer in admins questions? p.s. when write please delet french worts, I think this can you make without problem. |
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28-06-2011, 00:12 | #85 |
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"j'y vois de grandes differences......."
donc vous restez campez sur vos suppositions, je reste campé sur les miennes .......... pour ma part les tests sont bons pour jalisca, le reste quoique l'on en dise est vraiment sans importance ...... j'attends juste les "prétendues" preuves....... on avisera ensuite...... |
28-06-2011, 00:14 | #86 | |
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28-06-2011, 07:46 | #87 |
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But aren't you the one, whocan give real proof your dogs are not mixes? Just make a dnr test, it is not that expensive
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28-06-2011, 07:48 | #88 | |
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28-06-2011, 11:32 | #89 | |
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This dog looks more like a so called American Wolfdog (this is by far no breed!) rather than any CSW. Michael |
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28-06-2011, 12:06 | #90 |
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It is a pitty in other countries exist wolfdog clubs only like clubs of friends of wolfdogs. Not really BREEDING clubs. Nobody lead breeding. Not breeding comitees. In breeding with FCI pedigree is everything with 4 legs. Not conditions for breeding dogs. If every breeding wolfdog will must have bonitation, it will be easy. Every not typicle wolfdog (in eyes of bonitation comitee)will have P14 and he will not have pups with FCI pedigree. But it is work for clubs and cooperating with dog organisations in every country.
And if owner will not agree with bonitation comitee, he must show DNA test...... |
28-06-2011, 16:23 | #91 | |
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We all know that bonitation is not allways the only true answer - or do you still believe in it blindly? P.S. Does bonitation really make more sense than DNR test? Last edited by Vaiva; 28-06-2011 at 16:36. |
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28-06-2011, 18:23 | #92 | |
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http://www.wolfdog.org/eng/bonitations/122.html Sorry but with bonitation you can not make ANYTHING against the mixes. Only DNA tests and liquidation of their pedigrees will solve the problem...
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28-06-2011, 19:07 | #93 | |
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28-06-2011, 20:07 | #94 | |
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I mean, would this dogs pass a good Bonitation judge ??? Best regards / Mikael
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28-06-2011, 20:13 | #95 | |
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and you quest make bonitation sense in detection suspicious dogs or not |
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28-06-2011, 20:20 | #96 |
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Maybe a DNA test are to be made at all Bonitations
Best regards / Mikael
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28-06-2011, 20:29 | #97 |
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I not see problem in this. this not expensive this test - very good when this make all breeder with they litter before sale puppy and see 5-10 years and we have great DNA databasa
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28-06-2011, 23:21 | #98 | |
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What do you think Hanka is it possible to get the clubs to start to talk about this ??? Best regards / Mikael
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29-06-2011, 06:34 | #99 |
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Everybody here knows, Jedlicka is Mutara maker and Mutara owner= mutaras heva good results. And= it is NOT czech club judge, because club does not cooperate wit him many years.
Yes, it is easy to tell "it is not possible", to write here 1000 things why it is not possible. So good, we will write here hundreds pages about terrible french mixes. It is better. Only write and do nothing. My God...... So Ok, we will look at next and next generations of mixes and we will write how it is terrible.... |
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p.s. Why I quest- club from origin mas begin work with this- and others clubs/people want to help too, but origin club mas make a start and make working plan. Last edited by wolfin; 29-06-2011 at 07:59. Reason: p.s. |
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