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26-06-2011, 11:38
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MISSING CREDIBILITY of WD database
It seem that all WORLD OF THE CZECHOSLOVAKIAN WOLFDOGS have got some credibility problems.
First of ALL .... before putting some wrong informations into the database, WD administrator / moderators / etc should check this information ! As example, you changed the owners of ALOBA de la Louve Blanche... and fixed that my kennel Z Orel Ochrana is the new owner... The only thing is Alob has been covered by my male Ar'wan... (but unfortunally, no baby remained of borning, only one baby died after borning...) I am also still the owner of severals dogs in your database... some of them sold, other died... but i am stil owner !!! ... and you have the information from several months !!!! I ONLY HAVE 4 CWs in my home, Ar'wan MLS Ckaa'loup-bah MLS D'Chenoa z Orel Ochrana Banska z Orel Ochrana - LUPIFELIX and i have some co-ownership but the co-ownerships are registered to the others owners... And we have many many facts in this case... Other case : for one breeder WD database has totally invented the parents of a "virtual" dog created to show that WD is cheating the database... and has worked. WHAT WILL YOU DO IN THE FUTURE TO GIVE WD DATABASE CREDIBILITY ?
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26-06-2011, 12:08
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Best regards / Mikael
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_________________________________________________ *Hronec, Rasty, Zilja * Kennel, Wolfdog of Sweden* http://kennelwolfdogofsweden.vpsite.se/Home.html
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26-06-2011, 14:01
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Admin and other must know which databse information are good or not...
... the problem is that they often steal informations from breeder's website ... and sometimes the information are FALSE ! If they haven't done that, i suppose less problem !
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26-06-2011, 14:53
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Also, you were the owner of the dog when it died so (IMO) it would be good so if people wanted to get in touch with those lines, etc, they know who owned the dog. As for the sold dogs - maybe the new owner doesn't want their information posted, so they're listing you (I'm assuming you're the breeding kennel?) for the same reason as above.
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26-06-2011, 15:38
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I have no problem to discuss about the blood line, problem we can meet... medical one if exists...
... the main problem is that the WD database is creating some details and when you sent informations to the moderators and asked for updates you received "We must wait for update"... and then 2 months after you see false information into your dogs... ... at the same time, ADMIN for WD is attacking french breeders... First time to do something is to be clean before anything... WD is existing because we also accept our dogs could enter in the database, don't forget that !!!
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26-06-2011, 15:53
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A new WD database cheating !!!
I just have learned that i have a new litter from Ar'wan de la Mollynière de Lo'Scale X Althéa de la Seven Loup Cie... GREATS !!!! Althéa is the female of BRAY Corine and hasn't got any pupps from the last litter with Ar'wan (the 29 / 10 / 2009). Any more things i can learn from WD databse ??? What are you doing ???
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26-06-2011, 23:16
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Oh, for sure WD has some wrong data, as I'm sure WD just gets information from a) owner submitting or b) find the information on the web.
Neither of which is verified by documents. If I submit my dog having won Best in Show, WD doesn't ask for some proof. If I write my dog covered so and so, WD doesn't check if it's true..If I say I sold my dog, it is so.. But WD also is not paid to do it and never guaranteed veracity unlike that which kennel clubs are required to.. WD is like a convenient compilation of the information, which each country's KC should have documents of, provided the KC is reputable and honest. WD to me is a nice reference site kind of like Wikipedia, but you must always check 'primary source' when doing serious research too.. |
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27-06-2011, 12:12
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Who has interest to change the owner of ALOBA de La Louve Blanche and registered it is me now ?
Who has interest to imagine that we have new pupps from Ar'wan X Althea de la Seven Loup Cie ? Nothing is written onto WEBSITEs because there is no litter.... Who has interest to NOT CHANGE the DATABASE when i sent data to correct it (about sold dogs...) ? Who has got the interest to not change that i am the owner of Chuuck Running wolf... and i sent several messages to notify that... I always surprise that WD database sometimes make so a LOT OF ENERGY to hide some facts... Where is CREDIBILITY there ??? ... i always ENJOY to help world of czecoslovakian to be built... but sometimes, we are fed up of some behaviours from PEOPLE BACK A KEYBOARD !
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27-06-2011, 18:33
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First - the breeder of Aloba didn't send any names of the dog owners. He is sending nothing - after the MIX-gate I do not wonder he want to hide his "results". Second - the owner also didn't send his personal data. It is why the name WAS NOT THERE. I'm not the fairy to read in your minds!!!! Third - you wrote that you plan a litter with Aloba. And it means that AT LAST YOU MUST BE THE CO-OWNER of this dog! It is why you was put there (since there was no info about any other owner of this dog). It was done automatically because you was not kindly enough send any data about the female you want to use for breeding.... Your litter was not published because there is not HD-result of the female. And you belong to the breeders who is not sending any information for the database... Sorry but for me you are now just another person who want to exploit me, the server and the work of other breeders and CsW owners to make business and to sell the puppies. You didn't offer ANYTHING. You send NO DATA. But you still required from us to advertise your puppies. When it was not done you start a huge rumble. Was is so hard to write ONE SMALL EMAIL WITH THE NAME OF THE OWNER? OR MAYBE IT IS NOT ABOUT THE WRONG/MISSING DATE? Just another way to throw mud on Wolfdog.org because it is publishing information about the pedigree cheating of your friends???? |
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27-06-2011, 22:02
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I didn't have to send you anything about ALOBA... Aloba still dogs of Michael CIANNAMEA... and i only accept to cover with my male the only condition is to be with my affix name... ... that represents good garantee to new owner of the pups, followings, advice, medical support, etc... I have th HD results of ALOBA (i pay myself for official reading... and it is not my dog) ... Why do i give it to you ??? Make change in your behaviour then we will see... ... No need WD to sell my pupps... 99,9 % of them sold in France. WD is representing to me the way of meeting people... and gave my experience... Of course you maybe don't speak french... but many post i explains things about nutrition, behaviour experiences, and more and more subjects... but the main problem is, the last year, some people are attacking everyone I have no friends to defend, i only defend that YOU MUST BE CLEAN BEFORE ATTACKING PEOPLE... AND NO ATTACK FRENCH BREEDERs Your soldiers here in France like Martial always try to make problem with anybody... Any breeders don't want to give any information because all datas are used to make trouble... It is not the way of saving the breed, only the way to increase the power of a small group of persons... Follow in that way, and at the end nothing would stayed interesting in WD !
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27-06-2011, 22:10
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 and who atack? we speak about problems who are in CSV world not moore, if You see in this problem and think this is atack... maybe You self mas change a Your behaviour about others countrys 
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27-06-2011, 22:11
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 , just I like the CSW and I'm impassioned 
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