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Old 12-12-2008, 01:42   #41
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if yu look better in blood line dear martiou yu can note that our breed is A COSANGUINITY selection .. and then if yu look better as better the work in marriage is not like yur work .. put female and a male to breed near a friend .... a type is the work in a selection .. and really y m so curious to see yur in few months .... sure no consanguinity .. but yu can try with a FROG and sure yu have perhaps more chance to fix a type !!!!! y think it's enought to play with yu young and big breeder .... y hope cross yur litter in dig show to see their results and see if their are very nice(or best near the standard) and healthy ....YUR ONLY CHANCE .. to have the male from margo's kennel .. the rest ... HUM yur female is not really a nice female .. just a female for family life ... (good things but that 'all ..)and when y see yur big price(1200 euros ) for this y think YU ARE A REAL BUSINESS MAN !!!!! best reagards ....
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Old 12-12-2008, 01:58   #42
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still not of answer, you are a champion to avoid the questions

business man ????? me ??????? , not just impassioned

in connection with the small ones of my bitch, consanguinity is made in a considered way

http://www.wolfdog.org/php/modules.p...7818&DOG2=7473

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look at, but I believe that you are unable to include/understand all that

And please, why ever you attack my dogs when some of my questions bothers you because your incapacity to reply?

you understand ?????

my female: A67K1M3OdP3 : therefore, for you, a bitch which should not reproduce??

For the france: I remind to you that this range is the only one which is currently proposed where the parents have all the 2 the bonitation and the radios
thus your remarks ...... and after you speak about jealousy .......

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Old 12-12-2008, 02:31   #43
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hi again .martiou .... where yu find that y attack yur dogs??? it's just an evidence ..(and please yu write me a private mail to explain bad things from merlin ..ossa ..etc .. stop please this hypocrite attitude on this public topic and in private yu write bad words ...)hum the evidence is that yu say "y m a passionned" .. but yu do just 5 dogshows and on all juges give yu list of default for yur female .. bonitation too (tail too long /bad behaviour/p3/ dysplasy C...etc ..) and outhout this yu say :"y m professional and y breeding".. BUT THE TRUTH (and all french people know that.. yu buy yur female 1 euro ...one male (apache)100euros (and yu try to do last year a mariage with him.. and he 's from a father (benny) and his daughter( kiloute).. A REAL CONSANGUINITY THIS !!!! .. and now yu sale yur pupps like good and serious kennel who do dog show (national and international)have female A/B or A:A .... and yu are sure to have THE SCIENCE TO BREEDING !!!!! really y don't thing yu are the person who can learn to me(or to edit) something good ....but SURE if y do comptability .. yu are very good ..5 dog show ...350euros/ female 1 euros .. 5 pupps =5x1200euros =6000euros .. hum good rentability .... if yu look in origin country price are not so strong and better quality that yurs ... and if yu look french kennels they pay taxes and yu not !!!!! THIS IS THE DIFFENRENCE !!!!! and the truth ...good reflexions and best regards ... f
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you do not know absolutely anything in connection with my dogs…. and my answer, like d' practice, the discution is impossible with you, you still answer with dimensions….
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Old 12-12-2008, 02:39   #45
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......sure martiou ......discution to discredite someone is so easy and yu are" the specialist ".. not surprise to do the same asq soon as YU DO THAT FIRST .......if one day yu stop this attitude .... perhaps y can study to change too .. but .....
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why simply explain you not that you are unable to answer your choices on your selection ?????

good now that my opinion is made on your subject, i would like to know the answer of Mrs Molnar, is with it that i put this question
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Old 12-12-2008, 02:52   #47
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WHO YU ARE to want this !!!! do yu think really any breeder give yu their intentions just because yu want an answer to yur discrdites !!!! y think yu play in a bad place .. yu can go at school before to learn good education first .... best regards .. f
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Old 12-12-2008, 10:35   #48
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hmmmmm I realy don't understand why should I justify myself to somebody who has got only 1 dog and/or just having his first litter............................
A few years later, when you have got enough experienses and knowledge about this breed and breeding , and we could see your pups...than we could talk...untill...I'm so sorry to say....NOT YOU ARE THE RIGHT PERSON WHO COULD CRITIZES ME.......
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it is well damage Mrs Molnar, which I include/understand, you have any explanation to given in connection with your selection, just like your friend Furyos

thus you do not astonish that your work is so often shown finger

for information: i worked during 2 years in a refuge SPA in Switzerland, in Vevey, i was trainee with French-speaking Switzerland school of dog guides blind man, and i was guard of one of most famous of the breedings of cavalier king Charles in France during 5 years, therefore yes in the world of the dog wolf, I launch out, that now because i have wanted to already know the front race sufficiently, but as regards the selection, I am able to include/understand, but you, you in summers incompetent on your own work ..................
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Old 12-12-2008, 11:09   #50
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incompetent??? hahahahaha
just enough to see the big special showresults the last two years.......and my dogs are imported to Slovakia and Czeh Rep...for breeding...
yees.....I'm totaly incompetent...hahahahaha
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I do not speak about your dog but just of your incompetence to explain you on your work of selection !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

read again, and say me where I attact your dogs Mrs Molnar?????!!!!!!!!! I just posed you questions, the same ones to which Furyos forever known to answer on the French forum............

and just like your friend, you answer only what arranges you to include/understand, cheer!!!!
for me, this discution is finished, I am able to make me my opinion in your connection ........................
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Old 12-12-2008, 11:23   #52
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hey...you are always attact Frank and me and our dogs.........
and I have got bad attitude?????????
yees......everybody could hear and see just what they want................
discussion is over
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http://www.wolfdog.org/php/modules.p...ogs&country=SK

to finish Mrs Molnar, could is you tell me why Enzo Crying Wolf the only dog male authorized to reproduce in slovaquie??? thus your results in expos are a thing but your production is another
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hmmmm if you would look after more precaisly... you could find more breeding dogs ,male and female with bonitacio in SK and CzRep...
but you don't care the facts, your aim only the shit dropping like some of your "friends"
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:37   #55
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No answers as excepted (it's long time I did not except anymore for Frank as I know now he doesn't have enough knowledges).

Edit, I'm working with French first national research center, currently on new cognitive learning models, formerly working on Gene Therapy on a genes insertion positioning optimisation.
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hmmmm if you would look after more precaisly... you could find more breeding dogs ,male and female with bonitacio in SK and CzRep...
but you don't care the facts, your aim only the shit dropping like some of your "friends"
cheer Mrs Molnar for this superb answer!!!!
and for Czech Republic : just Lupus Crying Wolf
why ??????? i don't understand ??????

http://www.wolfdog.org/php/modules.p...ogs&country=CZ
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:50   #57
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HMMM you have got interesting job...but why did you write it me?
or are you interested in my "knowledge"????
I'm agricultural ingeniour,main profily is reproduction, now I just studee psycholigy,I was working with socialization research in ELTE University ,main trainer in search and rescue dog team in Hungary,member in curatorium in Foundation for Hungarian National breeds..............
And I surly know that there are a lot of things what I should studee more : ))))))))))
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:51   #58
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try to find more...because there are !!!!!!
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:55   #59
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and another but important things: every country has got the own breeding rules.....as my country and my klub has got as well...........we have caracter test (shouting, the dog must be touchable,protection work together with owner),other part is the judgment of the dog (exteriour), need two excelent showresults and HD results. Whithout any of them I couldn't get pedigree for the pups......
My klub accept just the hungarian "bonitacio"
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HMMM you have got interesting job...but why did you write it me?
or are you interested in my "knowledge"????
You wrote this: "NOT YOU ARE THE RIGHT PERSON WHO COULD CRITIZES ME....... "... and now wonder why ?

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I'm agricultural ingeniour,main profily is reproduction
So you have no excuses, you know well the damage of high consanguinity, especially in this breed.
And you also know probabilistic models for HD propagation, I was lately reading HD propagation models against Markov chain, it's just working. So once again no excuse to mate bad HD pedigree dogs sir & dame. So no, I don't understand you, but there are maybe parts I don't understand so feel free to email me and explain to me when you would have time .
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