Northern inuit dog

wolfeywolf · 16-11-2002, 16:32

after searching for a CzW or SW for many years, i was delighted to be
offered a pup as i am in the uk. but due to an unknown sorce email i was
rejected because i have an english breed known as the northern inuit dog.
even more distressing to find out was that someone who has utonagan (a breed
that up until 1 month ago we're also known as northern inuit but as faction
club registering unknown dogs and they we're unconected with the northern
inuit society!) has 3 booked for next year!
i am at home all day, willing to give endless walks. we have even sold our
house so we can have more room for our dogs to play. i was willing to comply
to all breeding terms even if extreme.
This utonagan owners is already advertising CzW and SW pups but due to a
mutal 'friend' of hers and formally mine, who's dogs i washed when they had
mange, and scrubbed the died feaces from her bedroom carpet and helpped find
homes for her pups only to be cast aside because i was pregnant! getting one
from her would be impossible.
i even invited the gentleman with the CzW to check my reffs from our vet,
dog warden and a show judge/breeder of 30 years.

how do you quailify to be a new owner?

Koos · 19-11-2002, 01:37

Hello Stephen,

I wanted to ask you why you are so upset, because I didn't understand your
message quiet well. Is it because you were offered a puppy in UK or is
because people refused you a puppy.
By the way where do you live and what is a northern inuit dog. How is this
dog look like. Is this a Indian Dog??

Many regards,

Letty

Silver_Dragon · 19-11-2002, 02:40

Quote:

what is a northern inuit dog. How is this
dog look like.

The Inuit is also known as the Canadian Eskimo dog. It is not well known,
but was used as a war dog in the 1940's. It can pull up to twice it's
weight in carting activities. They are not a very well developed breed that
I can tell (perhapse I am wrong), but I have seen them come in a shorter GSD
type fur, all the way up to longer chow type fur. Some look like huskies,
some look like chow-malamute crosses. I am not an expert however, so I am
sure there is much more I do not know! I do know it is NOT an American
Indian Dog, and I beleive it used to be called simply "Eskimo" here in the
past. Hope this helps!

~Silver Dragon~

wolfeywolf · 19-11-2002, 03:13

hello koos de graaff,
my name is laura. i had a puppy offered to me, and was told it would be
imported, i was willing to pay the £1900 asking price but because i have
northern inuit dogs i was then sent an email saying he didn't want me to
have one because i had these dogs. northern inuit dogs are the uk wolf
alike. very soft and loving as you will know from your own type of dog. but
because i own this breed i have been black listed. the breeders won't reply
to my emails and this has distressed me a lot as i have dreamed of having a
CzW or SW. we are moving house so we have extra room for the dogs, i'm at
home all day, i have references from my vet, dog warden and many others to
prove that i love my dogs (or as my family thinks, my life works round them)
i would love one of these dogs and feel hurt at the fact that i have had no
reply or explanation.
laura

wolfeywolf · 19-11-2002, 03:16

northern inuit dogs are a uk breed which was bred to be wolfish in type. it
was started in 1987 and the society are working very hard towards kc
registration. they are not connected to the canidian inuit. they are loving,
gentle and intellegent with hearts bigger than they are.
www.northern.inuits.7p.com
laura

Minna · 19-11-2002, 09:32

Hello Laura,

I would not always say that CsVs are soft and loving (though they can be
very very sweet if they want to). I don't know if you have ever met real
CsVs or SWs. You could visit a dog show or a breeder, better many breeders.
And I am not sure that an own room is enough for a CsV while it is alone at
home (you said you are at home all day, even if so, sometimes you must leave
your dogs alone) . My CsVs are in a kennel when we are not home, I tried to
keep them in the room first but, it didn't work because they can open
windows and doors. I even had bars front of the window but my male dog
pulled them away ... and if they can't open then they brake ... So, don't be
upset and don't rush into having one. I believe that you love your dogs, but
do you really love a CsV or just a dream about it. Try to learn to know as
many CsVs as possible and then you will know ...

Best regards, Minna

michaelundinaeichhorn · 19-11-2002, 11:15

Dear Laura,
I still don´t understand what was the problem about your innuit dogs. But I
totally agree with Minna, you should get to know these dogs very well before you
get one, there are lots of people who had to realise that they are not able to
handle one and it will be very difficult to find a new owner in your country.
You shouldn´t buy from the first breeder you find and you shouldn´t buy a dog of
a breeder who is willing to sell you a puppy just because you want one,
especially when he doesn´t know you personally. The dog you have been offered was
much too expensive. The easiest way to get to know dogs and people are special
dog shows and especially summercamps. There are camps each year in Slovakia and
the Czech Repuplic and we are organizing a special show with a camp end of August
next year in Bavaria, there are cheap flights from the UK to all of these
countries.
There is also the opportunity to come to our place with a group of dog and wolf
lovers from the UK in may 2003. Dr. Peter Neville (UK)a famous dog behaviourist
organizes this wolftour to our place every year and you have the possibility to
see and handle a pack of 5 wolfdogs for one week apart from walks in wolfarea and
joining a seminar with Prof. Ray Coppinger, USA, about dog and wolf behaviour.
You can get further information on Peters website www.pets.f9.co.uk if you are
interested.

Regards Ina

wolfeywolf · 19-11-2002, 12:25

thank you for the info Ina, i will condider coming over but i might have to
get some help first cause i'm terrified of flying and going on ferries or
the euro tunnel but if i get some help for that i should be able to come
over.
we are aware of the training involved and i am perpared for all they could
throw at me. we also have 2 German shepherds, both bitches, both big softies
who love everyone. we have kennels and we are moving house soon and we are
buying larger and better kennels. i do understand what you are saying but
i'm also the kind of person who would not part with any of my dogs even our
rescued GSD who had been beaten and starved before we aided her. she caused
£3000 of damage but she didn't understand she just wanted some fun (this was
while we slept at night!)
yes sometimes i do go out but if i'll be out more than an hour i get a
dogsitter in and we don't go on holiday because i can't leave them!
thank you for your advice and kind words. I hope that the CzW and SW will
become registered in the uk and wish you all sucess.

the problem was that he said i'd cross bred them with my northern
inuit,which is something i would not have done.

michaelundinaeichhorn · 19-11-2002, 12:48

Dear Laura,
believe me, you are not prepared for everything they could throw on you. I wasn´t
and I´m a veterinary surgeon and do behaviour therapy on dogs.Ask Peter Neville,
he knows our dogs very well.
Regards Ina

michaelundinaeichhorn · 19-11-2002, 12:48

Hello Laura,
1900 pound sterling for a puppy is a complete rip off!
Could you please name the breeder or dog dealer on this list because this would
maybe help us to proscribe profiteers like this person.
Thanks,Michael

taloowa · 09-10-2008, 15:54

Hi

I just wanted to post a message to everyone to introduce myself, I have 3 czech wolf hybrids and 1 sarloos currently, love them to pieces, and looking forward to sharing my experience with everyone.....

Bye
Taloowa

Rona · 09-10-2008, 16:01

Could you be more specific? What is a czech wolf hybrid? I don't think anybody on this forum has ever heard about such dogs... or maybe hybrids?

taloowa · 09-10-2008, 16:04

Hi there

Yeah they are Czech wolf mixed with a Northern Inuit..... to create a hybrid.....they are as sweet as anything bless them

tikaani · 09-10-2008, 16:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by taloowa

Hi there

Yeah they are Czech wolf mixed with a Northern Inuit..... to create a hybrid.....they are as sweet as anything bless them

hi there, thought id just let you know that, you might get a few negative messages on this site, as a lot of people on here dont like cwd cosses and can be quite rude about it. hope u find some this site helpfull though

taloowa · 09-10-2008, 16:50

Hi there

Thanks for the info, I had heard, as it seems to of gained a repuation from other people, however if you want to learn about a breed and know what the dogs are really like and there behaviour, its best to go to the source, I am here to learn, not to do politics and maybe share a few stories but thanks for the warning

michaelundinaeichhorn · 09-10-2008, 18:56

Hi,

welcome to this forum.
Sorry to bother you again, but what is a Czech wolf?
Is it a wolf from Czech Republic, taken out of a den maybe, because there are hardly any wolves in this country.
Or is it a wolf from a zoo in Czech Republic.

Regards,
Michael

taloowa · 09-10-2008, 19:05

Hi there

It is a wolf crossed with a wolf in the 1950's and then the wolf is breed out, so u end up with a dog that looks like a wolf, some people here have crossed them, with Northern Inuit, but they are just a look alike wolf. who are a stupid as anything

Bye
Averil

farena · 09-10-2008, 19:47

I agree with Tikaani in the fact that in this site you will find some people who I consider too much proud of belonging a checoslovaquian wolfdog. I can asure you that if your dogs are not pedigreed most of the people here won´t allow you belonging to their "club".

This is also because they are very afraid that the "breed" dissapears... somebody told this to me.

Bye.

taloowa · 09-10-2008, 19:52

Oh well thats there loss.... I can live without people like that... I am here to gain information about the breed, and learn new things, and gain friends if people are not interested in being friends or friendly then they can look else were....

I love my dogs and they are part of this breed, if people want to bitch thats down to them as they obviously have enough time todo so.

On the other hand, I dont have the time to argue or bitch, as I work, have a family and own 6 dogs....

Will to chat to anyone that wants to be friends, and thank you for your advice

Bye
Taloowa

farena · 09-10-2008, 19:57

Hello,

I didn´t want to mean that everybody here are like this, but I´ve found some of them. On the other hand, here in Spain there is a wolfdog called Ivayn (I think so) and their owners are quite nice people.

16-11-2002, 16:32	#1
wolfeywolf Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 16	Northern inuit dog after searching for a CzW or SW for many years, i was delighted to be offered a pup as i am in the uk. but due to an unknown sorce email i was rejected because i have an english breed known as the northern inuit dog. even more distressing to find out was that someone who has utonagan (a breed that up until 1 month ago we're also known as northern inuit but as faction club registering unknown dogs and they we're unconected with the northern inuit society!) has 3 booked for next year! i am at home all day, willing to give endless walks. we have even sold our house so we can have more room for our dogs to play. i was willing to comply to all breeding terms even if extreme. This utonagan owners is already advertising CzW and SW pups but due to a mutal 'friend' of hers and formally mine, who's dogs i washed when they had mange, and scrubbed the died feaces from her bedroom carpet and helpped find homes for her pups only to be cast aside because i was pregnant! getting one from her would be impossible. i even invited the gentleman with the CzW to check my reffs from our vet, dog warden and a show judge/breeder of 30 years. how do you quailify to be a new owner?

19-11-2002, 01:37	#2
Koos Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 731	VERY UPSET! Hello Stephen, I wanted to ask you why you are so upset, because I didn't understand your message quiet well. Is it because you were offered a puppy in UK or is because people refused you a puppy. By the way where do you live and what is a northern inuit dog. How is this dog look like. Is this a Indian Dog?? Many regards, Letty

19-11-2002, 03:13	#4
wolfeywolf Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 16	Re:VERY UPSET! hello koos de graaff, my name is laura. i had a puppy offered to me, and was told it would be imported, i was willing to pay the £1900 asking price but because i have northern inuit dogs i was then sent an email saying he didn't want me to have one because i had these dogs. northern inuit dogs are the uk wolf alike. very soft and loving as you will know from your own type of dog. but because i own this breed i have been black listed. the breeders won't reply to my emails and this has distressed me a lot as i have dreamed of having a CzW or SW. we are moving house so we have extra room for the dogs, i'm at home all day, i have references from my vet, dog warden and many others to prove that i love my dogs (or as my family thinks, my life works round them) i would love one of these dogs and feel hurt at the fact that i have had no reply or explanation. laura

19-11-2002, 03:16	#5
wolfeywolf Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 16	VERY UPSET! northern inuit dogs are a uk breed which was bred to be wolfish in type. it was started in 1987 and the society are working very hard towards kc registration. they are not connected to the canidian inuit. they are loving, gentle and intellegent with hearts bigger than they are. www.northern.inuits.7p.com laura

19-11-2002, 09:32	#6
Minna Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 50	Re:VERY UPSET! Hello Laura, I would not always say that CsVs are soft and loving (though they can be very very sweet if they want to). I don't know if you have ever met real CsVs or SWs. You could visit a dog show or a breeder, better many breeders. And I am not sure that an own room is enough for a CsV while it is alone at home (you said you are at home all day, even if so, sometimes you must leave your dogs alone) . My CsVs are in a kennel when we are not home, I tried to keep them in the room first but, it didn't work because they can open windows and doors. I even had bars front of the window but my male dog pulled them away ... and if they can't open then they brake ... So, don't be upset and don't rush into having one. I believe that you love your dogs, but do you really love a CsV or just a dream about it. Try to learn to know as many CsVs as possible and then you will know ... Best regards, Minna

19-11-2002, 11:15	#7
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	Re:VERY UPSET! Dear Laura, I still don´t understand what was the problem about your innuit dogs. But I totally agree with Minna, you should get to know these dogs very well before you get one, there are lots of people who had to realise that they are not able to handle one and it will be very difficult to find a new owner in your country. You shouldn´t buy from the first breeder you find and you shouldn´t buy a dog of a breeder who is willing to sell you a puppy just because you want one, especially when he doesn´t know you personally. The dog you have been offered was much too expensive. The easiest way to get to know dogs and people are special dog shows and especially summercamps. There are camps each year in Slovakia and the Czech Repuplic and we are organizing a special show with a camp end of August next year in Bavaria, there are cheap flights from the UK to all of these countries. There is also the opportunity to come to our place with a group of dog and wolf lovers from the UK in may 2003. Dr. Peter Neville (UK)a famous dog behaviourist organizes this wolftour to our place every year and you have the possibility to see and handle a pack of 5 wolfdogs for one week apart from walks in wolfarea and joining a seminar with Prof. Ray Coppinger, USA, about dog and wolf behaviour. You can get further information on Peters website www.pets.f9.co.uk if you are interested. Regards Ina

19-11-2002, 12:25	#8
wolfeywolf Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 16	Re:VERY UPSET! thank you for the info Ina, i will condider coming over but i might have to get some help first cause i'm terrified of flying and going on ferries or the euro tunnel but if i get some help for that i should be able to come over. we are aware of the training involved and i am perpared for all they could throw at me. we also have 2 German shepherds, both bitches, both big softies who love everyone. we have kennels and we are moving house soon and we are buying larger and better kennels. i do understand what you are saying but i'm also the kind of person who would not part with any of my dogs even our rescued GSD who had been beaten and starved before we aided her. she caused £3000 of damage but she didn't understand she just wanted some fun (this was while we slept at night!) yes sometimes i do go out but if i'll be out more than an hour i get a dogsitter in and we don't go on holiday because i can't leave them! thank you for your advice and kind words. I hope that the CzW and SW will become registered in the uk and wish you all sucess. the problem was that he said i'd cross bred them with my northern inuit,which is something i would not have done.

19-11-2002, 12:48	#9
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	Re:VERY UPSET! Dear Laura, believe me, you are not prepared for everything they could throw on you. I wasn´t and I´m a veterinary surgeon and do behaviour therapy on dogs.Ask Peter Neville, he knows our dogs very well. Regards Ina

19-11-2002, 12:48	#10
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	Re:VERY UPSET! Hello Laura, 1900 pound sterling for a puppy is a complete rip off! Could you please name the breeder or dog dealer on this list because this would maybe help us to proscribe profiteers like this person. Thanks,Michael

09-10-2008, 15:54	#11
taloowa Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: England Posts: 28	Hi there Hi I just wanted to post a message to everyone to introduce myself, I have 3 czech wolf hybrids and 1 sarloos currently, love them to pieces, and looking forward to sharing my experience with everyone..... Bye Taloowa

09-10-2008, 16:01	#12
Rona Distinguished Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Kraków Posts: 3,509	Could you be more specific? What is a czech wolf hybrid? I don't think anybody on this forum has ever heard about such dogs... or maybe hybrids? __________________

09-10-2008, 16:04	#13
taloowa Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: England Posts: 28	Hi there Yeah they are Czech wolf mixed with a Northern Inuit..... to create a hybrid.....they are as sweet as anything bless them

09-10-2008, 16:50	#15
taloowa Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: England Posts: 28	Hi there Thanks for the info, I had heard, as it seems to of gained a repuation from other people, however if you want to learn about a breed and know what the dogs are really like and there behaviour, its best to go to the source, I am here to learn, not to do politics and maybe share a few stories but thanks for the warning

09-10-2008, 18:56	#16
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	Hi, welcome to this forum. Sorry to bother you again, but what is a Czech wolf? Is it a wolf from Czech Republic, taken out of a den maybe, because there are hardly any wolves in this country. Or is it a wolf from a zoo in Czech Republic. Regards, Michael

09-10-2008, 19:05	#17
taloowa Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: England Posts: 28	Hi there It is a wolf crossed with a wolf in the 1950's and then the wolf is breed out, so u end up with a dog that looks like a wolf, some people here have crossed them, with Northern Inuit, but they are just a look alike wolf. who are a stupid as anything Bye Averil

09-10-2008, 19:47	#18
farena Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Barcelona Posts: 16	Hello taloowa I agree with Tikaani in the fact that in this site you will find some people who I consider too much proud of belonging a checoslovaquian wolfdog. I can asure you that if your dogs are not pedigreed most of the people here won´t allow you belonging to their "club". This is also because they are very afraid that the "breed" dissapears... somebody told this to me. Bye.

09-10-2008, 19:52	#19
taloowa Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: England Posts: 28	Oh well thats there loss.... I can live without people like that... I am here to gain information about the breed, and learn new things, and gain friends if people are not interested in being friends or friendly then they can look else were.... I love my dogs and they are part of this breed, if people want to bitch thats down to them as they obviously have enough time todo so. On the other hand, I dont have the time to argue or bitch, as I work, have a family and own 6 dogs.... Will to chat to anyone that wants to be friends, and thank you for your advice Bye Taloowa

09-10-2008, 19:57	#20
farena Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Barcelona Posts: 16	Hello again Hello, I didn´t want to mean that everybody here are like this, but I´ve found some of them. On the other hand, here in Spain there is a wolfdog called Ivayn (I think so) and their owners are quite nice people.