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Old 07-11-2008, 01:43   #1
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AND !!! we have new "biznes plan" in Lithuania.
this man Thomas Zagurskis have this web site.
http://thomasfamilypuppies.lt/eng.html

and wo interesing cann You see?
in first web site You cann se steal logo from kennel "Crying wolf".
Hes wish buy from Edith puppy like normal buyer, but I see this info about hes pupps in this web site.
this be :


all info be in hes web site 5 minut latter from speak with Edith.

next days hes steal me personel text about wolf and wolfdog, ok I wright hem and 5 minut latter this text be out. but I have all copy.

Hes call me and very angry scream me "who You make- this is me biznes and I have licensie from this, and all info I cann use- I have permission from breeder". Hmm ... I all thime have contact with Edith... and .. hes not have "permission and contact" with breeder.

Hes steal Helena photo and cut Copyrigth sign. I wrigth to hem about this steal- ok hes make out this photo.

Today I see new info : hes have new pupps.
You cann this see:


I wright email to breeder and now whait replay.

other info :
http://girios-dvasia.wolfdog.org/gal...album=6&page=1

Who we cann make?
I know - hes have problems with people who wish buy wolfdogs with 1600 euro price. in me country not be good market to wolfdogs biznes but... this situation me not like.
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:18   #2
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Hello Daiva, I wrote him too about foto with copyright "helenasotis", there is head of my male. Hanka
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Old 07-11-2008, 13:07   #3
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hmm I chek all and have "suspicious" breeder list.
first victim be "Crying wolf"
now "von Konigs - Terry", wo be next?
Now all breeder mas wery hard check all email about pupps.
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Old 08-11-2008, 11:15   #4
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Now we get as a admins folowing email :
Hello,

I'm Thomas from Lithuania www.thomasfamilypuppies.lt We are not breeders but We are not re-seller We are just promotion CSW I do not think that its a big problem .. And We got from Hungarian and Romanian breeders permit and We are promotion her dogs and puppies .. Beacause in Lithuania more people interesting CSW I do not think that we are doing bad for CSW more people calling us and say that thanks and more people say that First time We saw CSW .. Its means Lithuanian breeders not works good for promotions.. And We love CSW and We would like to propose CSW .. And We are not steal
Pictures from breeders website We got directly email from breeders for available puppies. We are not selling puppies breeders sales to customers

Thanks
Thomas Zagurskys
Skype:thomasfamilypuppies
www.thomasfamilypuppies.lt
+37060099454
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Old 08-11-2008, 14:24   #5
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Hmm, very interesing email.
But WHO I have others info from breeders?
And when people wish moore know about wolfdogs, he not have any problem to find www.wolfdog.org or call me.
very interesing explain. But wo see in hes web site.
NOT BE info about breeders, who is who, steal photo without copyright
like this:



real photo:


and kennel logo without all name, or parents info : (this is the best method to kennel reklam)?

real is:
http://www.cryingwolf.hu/?command=dogs&id=144


If breeder wish have reklam about hes kennel or litter he cann this have in ours kennel club web site. www.kinologija.lt

And we all know this true- wolfdog is not like beautiful doggy from garden hes is big, loving but a little problematic dog, and we not wish have future like husky.... beautiful is cruel

Pavel thanks from info
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Old 09-11-2008, 16:35   #6
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Hmm, very interesing email.
But WHO I have others info from breeders?
And when people wish moore know about wolfdogs, he not have any problem to find www.wolfdog.org or call me.
very interesing explain. But wo see in hes web site.
NOT BE info about breeders, who is who, steal photo without copyright
like this
So far there fact is (as far I understand):
Crying wolf and Konigs-Terry gave the permission to public the info from their web pages. Thomas did not steal the photos...
We had similar question on wolfdog - we didn't get the permission (there was no time to answer the email) and Thomas did not take any info or photos from Wolfdog.org. So I see he keep to this.

The problem is different - Crying wolf use photos made by Helena. So far I know Helena agree to it when people keep to the copyright rules.. On Crying wolf web page it is so but not on the Lithuania page - in this case the photos are taken and the copyright removed and it is NOT ALLOWED.
So the only person which rights has been broken is Helena.... So Thomas please fix it.... (the beautiful CzW photos made by her can be published ONLY with copymark OR information that the photos are made by her: http://www.helenasotis.info/)
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So far there fact is (as far I understand):
Crying wolf and Konigs-Terry gave the permission to public the info from their web pages. Thomas did not steal the photos...
We had similar question on wolfdog - we didn't get the permission (there was no time to answer the email) and Thomas did not take any info or photos from Wolfdog.org. So I see he keep to this.

The problem is different - Crying wolf use photos made by Helena. So far I know Helena agree to it when people keep to the copyright rules.. On Crying wolf web page it is so but not on the Lithuania page - in this case the photos are taken and the copyright removed and it is NOT ALLOWED.
So the only person which rights has been broken is Helena.... So Thomas please fix it.... (the beautiful CzW photos made by her can be published ONLY with copymark OR information that the photos are made by her: http://www.helenasotis.info/)
he used this:

orginal be:
http://www.wolfdog.org/lit/238.html
and me personel text:

orginal is:
http://www.wolfdog.org/lit/articles/1196.html
and this:


this is from wolfdog.

AND when I this see- I wright to hem and quest- have hes permision for this use? Answer- not Your biznes, I this have from..... breeder. hmm But breeder is from Hungary but text is in me language.
When I send hem links from this orginal web site, he make out all.But, he used this when not have permsion.
And... You thinks others be with permission?
When He yeastarday wright abt me- I fals all Edith email who I have....m when hes know what cann this make... maybe ... I not have moore words. hm
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I'm Thomas from Lithuania www.thomasfamilypuppies.lt

Thomas Zagurskys
Skype:thomasfamilypuppies
www.thomasfamilypuppies.lt
A lot of people, interested in CSW are calling me too, the thing is, they do not know anything about the breed. Just like you, Mr. Zagurskys. If one gets a dog, thinking is just a usual dog, but looking like a wolf, this may turn in to something really sad.
I am not wolfin and I am not planning to fight with you via e-mails. But I know more effective ways, Mr. Zagurskys.
I know you are reading this.
I do not care what you are doing with other breeds, but I stricktly recomend you to get your hands OF wolfdogs.
Be careful. Mr. Zagurskys.
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