Is Murphy a Wolfdog?

drongan · 08-04-2010, 15:39

Hi I just found your website. My dog is two years old and I got him from the pound as a puppy. We know nothing of his parents and I have been looking for dogs that resemble his appearance. I was wondering if anyone knows if he might be a wolf dog or a Tamaskin? He had seven brothers who were also adopted but all have been put to sleep as they were a bit out of control. Murphy also is a bit wild but friendly. He is very smart but strong willed and seems to have strong pack instincts. I posted some pictures of him in hopes someone might give me a clue to his breed or breeds. Thanks.

Mikael · 08-04-2010, 19:10

He is not a Vlcak or a Tamakan, but he might be a Wolfdog

Atleast he is a GSD mix...

I put the photos here for the real experts to judge

Best regards / Mikael

Mikael · 08-04-2010, 19:17

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Originally Posted by drongan

They were a bit out of control. Murphy also is a bit wild but friendly. He is very smart but strong willed and seems to have strong pack instincts.Thanks.

This part is the one that sounds very wolfdog.

Good Luck with the dog and your hunt for he´s history / Mikael

tupacs2legs · 09-04-2010, 11:29

hi

your lovely new dog looks 99.9 % GSD to me

drongan · 09-04-2010, 13:10

Thank you Mikael and Tupacs2leg for getting back to me about Murphy. Now at least I know what he is not lol.

draggar · 09-04-2010, 13:18

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Originally Posted by tupacs2legs

hi

your lovely new dog looks 99.9 % GSD to me

At least.

Maybe something else in there but I can't put my finger on it - or it could just be an off-color GSD (I've seen some of those).

The temperament sounds like a softer working line GSD. Get him to an obedience class!

tupacs2legs · 09-04-2010, 13:33

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Originally Posted by drongan

Thank you Mikael and Tupacs2leg for getting back to me about Murphy. Now at least I know what he is not lol.

aww he is lovely... do you have northern inuits where you live?

solomonchan · 09-04-2010, 22:50

i thing murphy 50% HUSKY X 50% GSD, he is siberian husky/german shepherd Mix

soniakanavle · 10-04-2010, 03:55

He looks purebred German Shepherd Dog to me, of the 'maskless variety.'
Here is an intresting list of all the types of GSD and GSD crosses out there [including our own CsV.]

http://www.shawlein.com/The_Standard...eed_Types.html

They say:
"Maskless Shepherd. This is a colour variant only, characterized by a lack of the typical black mask, and often showing faded or "bright" points of tan on the muzzle, chest and feet. It can also be seen in sable and bicolour patterns. While common in English lines prior to WW1, it is not typical of any contemproray bloodline. White markings are indicative of fading pigmentation, but are not evidence of wolf blood, although wolf crosses will often show similar colouration. A black mask gives the typical GSD expression, and is generally required by most judges, but the lack of it is not strictly speaking a sign of fading colour."

Mikael · 10-04-2010, 09:16

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He had seven brothers who were also adopted but all have been put to sleep as they were a bit out of control.

Six brothers put to sleep before two year of age, that do not sonds like purebred GSD to me

Best regards / Mikael

draggar · 10-04-2010, 15:29

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Originally Posted by Mikael

Six brothers put to sleep before two year of age, that do not sonds like purebred GSD to me

Best regards / Mikael

If they were working lines and had a hard temperament with inexperienced owners - I can see it.

Many people think that if the dog is too much for them it'll be too much for everyone so they will generally put it down as opposed to trying to rehab / train it.

yukidomari · 10-04-2010, 21:24

I agree with Draggar - and it doesn't have to be working temperament.

Maybe they just ended up with idiot owners, too.

hanninadina · 11-04-2010, 11:56

Looks like gsd siberian husky mix. The smaller head is a sign for it, I would say.

kaiser · 09-11-2010, 21:00

Hi there I have a Maskless pure bred GSD he is a beauty, just seen yours and I think that it is the same... ps not a huskey no way! these pre date the UK version of GSD pre 1st world war... he is a pure blood...

wolfin · 10-11-2010, 13:06

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Originally Posted by kaiser

Hi there I have a Maskless pure bred GSD he is a beauty, just seen yours and I think that it is the same... ps not a huskey no way! these pre date the UK version of GSD pre 1st world war... he is a pure blood...

do You have this dogs pedigree in UK from Kennel Club ( FCI contract partner)? If yes, he are pure breed, if not ...

08-04-2010, 15:39	#1
drongan Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2	Is Murphy a Wolfdog? Hi I just found your website. My dog is two years old and I got him from the pound as a puppy. We know nothing of his parents and I have been looking for dogs that resemble his appearance. I was wondering if anyone knows if he might be a wolf dog or a Tamaskin? He had seven brothers who were also adopted but all have been put to sleep as they were a bit out of control. Murphy also is a bit wild but friendly. He is very smart but strong willed and seems to have strong pack instincts. I posted some pictures of him in hopes someone might give me a clue to his breed or breeds. Thanks.

08-04-2010, 19:10	#2
Mikael Scandinavian Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 1,089	He is not a Vlcak or a Tamakan, but he might be a Wolfdog Atleast he is a GSD mix... I put the photos here for the real experts to judge Best regards / Mikael __________________ _________________________________________________ Hronec, Rasty, Zilja Kennel, Wolfdog of Sweden* http://kennelwolfdogofsweden.vpsite.se/Home.html http://www.facebook.com/pages/Wolfdo...53067971392916

09-04-2010, 13:10	#5
drongan Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2	is Murphy a wolfdog? Thank you Mikael and Tupacs2leg for getting back to me about Murphy. Now at least I know what he is not lol.

09-04-2010, 22:50	#8
solomonchan Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Indonesia,East Java,Surabaya city Posts: 2	is murphy a wolfdog i thing murphy 50% HUSKY X 50% GSD, he is siberian husky/german shepherd Mix __________________ SHALOM GOD BLESS YOU SOLOMON CHAN

09-11-2010, 21:00	#14
kaiser Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1	Kaiser - Maskless Shepherd Hi there I have a Maskless pure bred GSD he is a beauty, just seen yours and I think that it is the same... ps not a huskey no way! these pre date the UK version of GSD pre 1st world war... he is a pure blood...

09-04-2010, 11:29	#4
tupacs2legs rookie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: london Posts: 320	hi your lovely new dog looks 99.9 % GSD to me

10-04-2010, 03:55	#9
soniakanavle Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Blanco, Texas Posts: 81	He looks purebred German Shepherd Dog to me, of the 'maskless variety.' Here is an intresting list of all the types of GSD and GSD crosses out there [including our own CsV.] http://www.shawlein.com/The_Standard...eed_Types.html They say: "Maskless Shepherd. This is a colour variant only, characterized by a lack of the typical black mask, and often showing faded or "bright" points of tan on the muzzle, chest and feet. It can also be seen in sable and bicolour patterns. While common in English lines prior to WW1, it is not typical of any contemproray bloodline. White markings are indicative of fading pigmentation, but are not evidence of wolf blood, although wolf crosses will often show similar colouration. A black mask gives the typical GSD expression, and is generally required by most judges, but the lack of it is not strictly speaking a sign of fading colour."

10-04-2010, 21:24	#12
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	I agree with Draggar - and it doesn't have to be working temperament. Maybe they just ended up with idiot owners, too.

11-04-2010, 11:56	#13
hanninadina Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,466	Looks like gsd siberian husky mix. The smaller head is a sign for it, I would say.

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