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Old 07-08-2002, 18:54   #21
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I'm not so sure... It is almost impossible to pronounce it right if you
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===I don't think that there are people that knows what I say,when I (try to) use the originel name ,with my dutch accent ))

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Old 07-08-2002, 19:23   #22
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Try this one : zmrzlina !!!!!!
Thank you Roger,I can see theme running into her stomach.

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Old 07-08-2002, 19:29   #23
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==I don't think that there are people that knows what I say,when I (try
to) use the originel name ,with my dutch accent ))

Christa,

Try this one : zmrzlina !!!!!!
if you can do it by the end of the month , I'll buy You one next time we
walk with the dog's in Chaam.
Good luck with Your swh puppy's which will be born one of these days.

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Old 08-08-2002, 17:09   #24
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We could promote our breed more via dogshows and so on and so forth,
I hope I've started a constructive discussion from which we derive a plan
on how to promote our breed,
Jeffrey
We already started with such plan. And here are the results:
http://www.wolfdog.org/ ))
I think the biggest problem is still missing information how those dogs
really are. And because of this sometimes they are being bought by
unresponsible
people.

If we find the right people for them, their owners will promote our
breed. We have a nice pack of CzW owners here in Poland. And everyone makes
something. Marta and Adam are taking part in obedience championships, Marta
makes also Agilty, Kamila took part in a special presentation in Poznan. I
wrote already some articles about CzW for our newspapers and magazines.
Przemek is the administrator of wolfdog.org. Now we get contact with polish
TV and one of our CzW will play small role in the TV theater. All our
wolfdogs are also taking part in the dog shows...and we are just starting
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Old 18-11-2003, 21:49   #25
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I would like to make an observation. I realize I am a new member, but I have been reading everything I can on this site. I would just like to say that I think the name "Chechoslovakian Shepard" ( Please forgive the spelling) would be a more appropriate name for this breed. Since it is only a small percentage of wolf, and that would remove all the negative connotations of "wolf" from the name. I'm certainly not suggesting the name should be changed, but I wonder if it had been named "Shepard" instead of "Wolfdog" it might have been easier gaining acceptance. All dogs are descended from wolves originally, some are just farther than others. Nothing I have read here would make me not want to have one of these wonderful dogs, but it has certainly educated me on the importance of being knowledgable about the breed before you obtain a dog. I think this applies to any breed, as there are certainly a lot of more difficult breeds to have than this one. I am fascinated by this breed, and hope to someday be able to get one.

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, and that would remove all the negative connotations of "wolf" from the name.

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to us the word "wolf" hasn't any negative connotation !!!!!!!

we love wolves, so i love wolfdogs !
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Old 20-11-2003, 14:13   #27
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Yes, I love wolves, too. It is sad that others mis-understand these beautiful creatures, and it is to them I was refering to. To me there are no negative aspects at all, but to those who want to outlaw or kill anything asociated with wolves because they do not understand them.

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So what is the exact meaning of the word VLCAK? And what are the check name for a german shepherd?

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Old 21-11-2003, 22:47   #29
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Hi all
In Czech language word VLCAK means a dog that looks like a wolf.The official name of german shepherd is "Nemecky ovcak" but people oftem call him is also VLCAK.

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Old 22-11-2003, 22:37   #30
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Thanks Jiri & Lucky. I asked this question because I have seen the phrase Vlcak used to name german shepherds as well. Like in english one can still hear people talk about alsatian wolfdog when describing german shepherds. But "wolflike" is a perfect name for the checkoslovakian wolfdog I think. What is the Check name for WOLF? I guess Ovcak means a shepherd then?

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Hi fenris, ye I agree that "wolflike" wold be more appropriate translation. You are right ovcak means shepherd. Czech word for wolf is VLK.(Italian do'nt like such kind of words without vowel )
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I would just like to say that I think the name "Chechoslovakian Shepard" ( Please forgive the spelling) would be a more appropriate name for this breed. Since it is only a small percentage of wolf, and that would remove all the negative connotations of "wolf" from the name. I'm certainly not suggesting the name should be changed, but I wonder if it had been named "Shepard" instead of "Wolfdog" it might have been easier gaining acceptance.
But with changing the name we will get even bigger problems than lack of acceptance. I already saw that there is no bigger problem to get people to like CzWs if we will show them CzWs are nice, trainable and with good character. Some years ago we had the same problem in Poland. Everyone heard CzWs are horrible and aggressive. Everyone said: "if you want a nice wolfdog which can be used for training, you should buy a Saarloos". But we didn't give up. We showed our dogs on meetings, shows, wrote articles, a.s.o. People also saw Saarloos Wolfhonds on the shows in other countries and they changed their opinion completely. It's really working.... Last month there was an articles about European Dog show in Bratislava written by a well-known Polish judge. And you can read there:
"Czechoslovakian Wolfdog is now more popular than his Dutch cousin Saarloos wolfhond. People say he has nicer character"
It is important because this person is not in any way tied up with CzW but a big fan of Terriers...
And the CzW gets not only better opinion comparing to Saarlos Wolfhonds but also in comparison to some other breeds from the 1 FCI group....

But back to the "Shepherd" - if we would change the name it would make false connection suggesting CzW has something common with German Shepherd Dog. You're right: CzW has almost 70% of GSD blood. But the most important point while breeding CzW is: this breed should look like the European Wolf and any feature characteristics of GSD (falling topline, black mask, long ears, brown eyes, long tail, wide chest, short legs) are serious faults and often disqualification faults by CzWs....
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