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Old 13-06-2014, 10:11   #1
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Default Echo Crying Wolf

Please remove the ? by the whole E-Crying Wolf litter. And all their offsprings: http://www.wolfdog.org/pl/dbase/d/23149

The litter E was registered in Hungary but it was bred by Milan Budaj (Slovakia). He covered Arys with his dog Hitt and sold her to Edith first later.
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Old 13-06-2014, 14:03   #2
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This is a wrong information, Arys in 2008 was in the kennel Crying Wolf of Edith. I was present when Edit made progesteron to the two females (Arys z Oravy and Ariminum Andromeda ,my female)from his vet. She went in Slovakia for coupled Arys with Hitt. Surely the litter is just like other litters of Edith. The problem is with the litter Y,it is essential to take the test dna.
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Old 13-06-2014, 16:45   #3
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Sarka the problem is another: only my litter between Żela z Peronowki and Evander Crying Wolf has the symbol (_?_). Other Evander's litters with Fantazie z Vlčí Chaloupky and Beáta Grey Střípek snu don't have this mark (_?_).
Fantazie has a second litter with Emir Crying Wolf (brother of Evander) and it hasn't -> (_?_). There is no reason to put the mark only to my litter. In Facebook is a photo album from mating to birth and growth of puppies. I do not understand the reason of mark (_?_).
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Old 13-06-2014, 21:12   #4
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Adrea, speak with Edith about Arys DNA - Milan I think give Hitt DNA without problem and you solve a disput about E litter for all time
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Old 14-06-2014, 23:50   #5
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This is ridiculous!!
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Old 15-06-2014, 09:47   #6
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Certo ridicolo come altre cucciolate non solo quella di Echo .
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Old 15-06-2014, 22:47   #7
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ma infatti io non mi riferivo solo a quella cucciolata, ma a tutto il resto...delle cucciolate che con il cecoslovacco non ci azzeccano proprio si sa e sono ben visibili, così come di quelle su cui non c'è nulla da ridire
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Old 16-06-2014, 12:31   #8
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Daiva, honestly, I did not understand why I should do a genetic test (DNA), moreover seems made to force me to take the test of parentage. Why only my litter has mark (_?_) ??? Evander has 2 others litters...
The admin knows that I breed wisely and in the best way (DM test, DW test, HD and ED x-rays, DNA mapping, my puppies are born, breeded and socialized in my bedroom...), Evander is the real father of my puppies, there are many photos to certify him!
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only DNA test can say are this dog parent or not ( I not speak about Evander now, but about realy situation)
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Old 19-06-2014, 10:26   #10
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Ragazzi io ripeto che è solo una battaglia commerciale.

Io sono stato tra i primi a schierarmi contro i mix di qualsiasi tipo,e a proporre contromisure adeguate.

Ma è veramente ridicolo mettere in discussione una cucciolata tra hitt ed arys la cui progenie è visibilmente omogenea e incredibilmente simile agli ascendenti.

Io ho usato echo ben due volte,ed ho avuto delle femmine incredibilmente somiglianti ad arys ed un maschio che sembra il clone di hitt.

Tantissimi sanno che questi segni ormai sono solo pretestuosi e nemmeno più coerenti,io lo tengo sulle cucciolate di cuma (figlia di echo)ed altri proprietari di sorelle di cuma non hanno gli stessi segni.

Io sono disgustato che determinati allevatori abbiamo bisogno di screditare gli altri,oltre ogni razionalità,pur di mantenere un bacino d'utenza apprezzabile.
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Old 20-06-2014, 11:38   #11
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Default Murad Crying Wolf

It seems that this problem is happening with all Crying Wolf litters.

Please can someone explain to me why Murad's profile was changed from (_?_) to (?_MIX_?) ?

Also, it is clear that Murad is son of Amore Mio Srdcerváč and Arys z Oravy, so why was it tagged with (_?_) to begin with?

Can I know the reasons to doubt his parentage? I do not accept "it comes from Crying Wolf" as an excuse.

Thank you in advance.
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Old 24-06-2014, 17:44   #12
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11 days are passed and admin not change his mistake... I think that or you decide to put this symbol (_?_) on every litter of Evander (or Echo because the "problem" is the same) or you have to delete this (_?_) on Zela's litter.... I have think that this site is based on equity but this is a good example of a real not equity...
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Old 25-06-2014, 12:50   #13
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Equity?
Martina look at litters from cuma and her sisters.

And look at the echo brothers offsprings.

The litters without signs are made by friends or there are other reasons?

There is not an order only confusion.
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Old 25-06-2014, 14:06   #14
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Yes Peppe, the Admin has HER preferences

For ex. X-trovertida Fuerta Atropa Bella Donna (Echo C.W. & K-lee Vornja z Peronowki) has this mark (_!_) in her litter.

While others puppies from Echo C.W. are lucky like Leah Silver dell'Irco Sortiere or Anyankas Amber Eyes of Ice -non Solo Lupo-, their litters hasn't the mark.

This is sure equity
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Old 26-06-2014, 22:03   #15
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Quote:
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Yes Peppe, the Admin has HER preferences
I opt the new Admin is a HE
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Who cares about -!- and -?-, if we see that it is more or less random?
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