Puppies re-sellers form USA

[wolfin]

Hi, i have email form USA from ms. Natalja Sust. She will going in Lithuania and vizit me and see and maybe buy one wolfdogs puppies. But not this is problems-email from shes have and other breeder in Lithuania and she will buy Alaskian malamut and yet not know, maybe more dogs.

i thinks this is puppies seller from biznes.
i think we mas make list about this "sellers". this is good idea or not?

regards

[*Satu]

That´s very typical. Bisnes is bisnes Houply that person doesn´t send email from here.

[lupis]

Originally Posted by wolfin

i have email form USA from ms. Natalja Sust. She will going in Lithuania and vizit me and see and maybe buy one wolfdogs puppies. But not this is problems-email from shes have and other breeder in Lithuania and she will buy Alaskian malamut and yet not know, maybe more dogs.

I will not affraid of USA people. There are many re-sellers here buying cheap puppies from czech and slovakia and selling them expensive. I hear about france. Maybe for you it is interesting information when you have litter. Be careful....

[mijke]

Originally Posted by wolfin

i thinks this is puppies seller from biznes.
i think we mas make list about this "sellers". this is good idea or not?
regards

For me it is always a good idea to warn each other for people who want buy more puppies in one time!
So thanks for the info!

At the other hand I think a responsible breeder will never sell more pups together to one person, because everybody can imagine that such persons will sell them again (and not for the same price they did buy!!)… Only irresponsible and desperate breeders will do such kind of things.

I know that in some countries there are at this moment more puppies then interested people. That is why I admire some breeders in the list of “Wolfdogs in need” who still have more elder pups, but still don’t want to sell them together!

[Hanka]

Hello Daiva, I have theese emails every litter )). From USA it is very often. On theese email is typicle: what is price and in second email they write you about way of shipping and paying. I think, is easy know it.
They see your add on some websites and they contact you.....

[Wolfsirius]

I think, this is not only problem comes out from USA, but worldwide.
Money talks, also with animals, and that is not a good sign.

Re-homed dogs comes more and more, pups, youngsters, adults.
Every breeder should wake up, and notice problem came out, and react for that: do not make pups so much / often. If there is NOT enough good homes, will pups/youngsters given "only ok homes" sometimes even
"not so good homes".
During these years i had noticed many things changed in the world of Csv. And some of them are really not good for the breed, or for the dogs.

-Suski

[wolfdogs16]

It is a serious problem here, my friends. We in rescue are trying to ward it off. Most of those sellers claim content way over what the animal is, and charge big money....and don't do home checks, change their phone numbers and don't take their animals back if there is a problem. They only care about the money... We despise them.

[GalomyOak]

As a CSV owner in the US, it really hurts me to hear of perceptions of Americans, but in the same respect, I understand, especially after I read some of the posts from Americans on this site. Certainly there are many problems with the integrity of pet ownership and breeding in the US, but on the same token, there are many of us here that try to keep our animals with the highest standards of care and comfort. When we made the decision that we wanted to purchase a CSV, we had researched as much as we could, and tried to contact several owners and breeders to learn more. Flying to Europe at this point in our lives was not an option - we hope to in a few years - but we are not rich. When we do come across money, it usually goes to our dogs. Luckily, we found a very nice, helpful, and responsible breeder that took a chance on us, and helped us to make the arrangements to ship our dog. She flew in very comfortably - and was quite clean and happy, and ready to play - via a direct flight from Prague to New York City on Czech Airlines. The flight was around 8 hours in duration. We stay in contact with our breeder, and intend to, permanently - we have much gratitude. Our dog will never be resold, and we may eventually purchase another CSV - not to sell, of course! Our dogs are family, and we work and train with them daily. I think all of the above is true for the other owners of CSVs in the US I have written to. Not all people that live in the US are hungry for money. Hopefully, when we have established a US breed club, it will help serve as a resource for breeders in Europe - and the club will be able to connect responsible potential owners with breeders that are comfortable selling to the US, and also help to screen potential owners who are simply trying to make money.

Marcy

[wolfdogs16]

^^^ there are very many good, responsible breeders in the U.S. With good hearts and good intentions.... dont get me wrong.. and we appreciate any and all efforts you folks abroad do to insure your animals go to them..... but in all honesty, the bad breeders out number the good ones 10 to 1, at least.

I have been involved in wolf and wolfdog rescue since 1984...trust me... I know whats going on.

[wolfdogs16]

Originally Posted by wildenmorgen

As a CSV owner in the US, it really hurts me to hear of perceptions of Americans, but in the same respect, I understand, especially after I read some of the posts from Americans on this site. Certainly there are many problems with the integrity of pet ownership and breeding in the US, but on the same token, there are many of us here that try to keep our animals with the highest standards of care and comfort. When we made the decision that we wanted to purchase a CSV, we had researched as much as we could, and tried to contact several owners and breeders to learn more. Flying to Europe at this point in our lives was not an option - we hope to in a few years - but we are not rich. When we do come across money, it usually goes to our dogs. Luckily, we found a very nice, helpful, and responsible breeder that took a chance on us, and helped us to make the arrangements to ship our dog. She flew in very comfortably - and was quite clean and happy, and ready to play - via a direct flight from Prague to New York City on Czech Airlines. The flight was around 8 hours in duration. We stay in contact with our breeder, and intend to, permanently - we have much gratitude. Our dog will never be resold, and we may eventually purchase another CSV - not to sell, of course! Our dogs are family, and we work and train with them daily. I think all of the above is true for the other owners of CSVs in the US I have written to. Not all people that live in the US are hungry for money. Hopefully, when we have established a US breed club, it will help serve as a resource for breeders in Europe - and the club will be able to connect responsible potential owners with breeders that are comfortable selling to the US, and also help to screen potential owners who are simply trying to make money.

Marcy

and PS, Marcy. I'm on your side. Go for it by all means. And most wolfdog owners are the same way,.... my family is a "pack.."... me, my wife, 3 golden retrievers and a high mid content wolfdog. We'd sell our house and cars to save our animals....and live at a campground if we had to... but thats got nothing to do with whats really going on... it takes all of us together working to insure our animals dont fall into the wrong hands..... thats all im saying. My organizaiton does not adopt out any animal that has not been altered. Just a thought.

[lupis]

Originally Posted by wildenmorgen

As a CSV owner in the US, it really hurts me to hear of perceptions of Americans, but in the same respect, I understand, especially after I read some of the posts from Americans on this site. y

I speak with my friends CLC breeders. And they know no Americans dealers but they tell me about some breeders from my country and france. And i think Dutch. They not buy one puppy but buy more puppies directly from breeder. Buy cheap and sell for many money. Here puppie from many kennels are imported. I know in France breeders deal like it with Crying wolf puppies and puppie from Czech breeders z Kopáèkova dvora and od Starkej. In Dutch I not know. Enybody know if it is true?