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Old 30-09-2009, 12:06   #1
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Hi Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs lovers worldwide !

The CSV statistic tool is online, this can be viewed as a "statistic plugin" for the great wolfdog.org.

The description page is here: http://www.amicale-chien-loup-tcheco...m/csvstat.html (direct to the tool: http://www.amicale-chien-loup-tcheco...gi-bin/form.py)

Unfortunately I no longer have time for forums, for contact info please refer to the contact information on the description page.

Hope this will help people, long and healthy live to all your dogs !

Cheers

Anthony

PS: please can the moderator translate ?
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Old 11-10-2009, 20:11   #2
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Hi all, thanks for support !

Feel free to take a look from time to time to the description page as I add features (hopefully) periodically. Last important adds about the coefficient of inbreeding calculation:

"- Note: you can see two different parts for the Coefficient of inbreeding calculation, the first uses the formula: Sum (1/2)^n1+n2+1 (formula used by wolfdog.org) which suppose common ancestors have a COI=0% (which is not true most of the cases => the coefficient is under estimated) ; the second uses the complete formula: Sum (1/2)^n1+n2+1 * (1+Fa), this one takes in account the COI of common ancestors (better, but still a bit under estimated: Fa obtained from 8 generations with 3 converging passes. However, the result is now acceptably accurate.)."

One exemple of changes:

Hathor Crying Wolf: Wright's coefficent on 5 generations: 19.43359375%, becomes with complete formula: 26.2852315791%

As you can see the difference between results can be huge, so I encourage breeders to use the complete formula.

(BTW: Saarloos lovers, I added same statistic engine site for the Saarloos breed (link on the description page)... interesting to compare the formation of these two breeds).

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Old 12-10-2009, 10:32   #3
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tak sa pokúsim v skratke aspoň preložiť, i keď myslím, že asi všetci vedia o čo ide.

bol vytvorený štatistický program pre čsv (v nasledujúcom príspevku sa píše, že boli pridaní aj saarloos vlčiaci - skôr pre zaujímavosť).

na uvedenom linku si vložíte meno psa a dostanete jeho ID, toto vkladáte do okienok a vyhodí vám rôzne štatistiky a údaje.

ďalej sa píše o dvoch rôznych spôsoboch výpočtu wrightovho koeficientu, ktorý je na stránke k dispozícii, jeden, čo používa aj wolfdog a druhý všeobecný a sú možné aj veľké rozdiely, ako je uvedené na príklade psa Hathor Crying wolf. preto odporúča viac používať všeobecný vzorec, ktorý je presnejší.

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myslím, že je to zaujímavá stránka, resp. program, dá sa tam veľa toho zistiť, podiel vlčej krvi toho ktorého vlka u daného jedinca a dajú sa vyfiltrovať napr. psy podľa DBK výsledkov a podobne.

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Old 17-10-2009, 14:45   #4
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nema este psika zatial len zhanam informacie pocul som ze tieto psi su plache a ze ztekaju je to pravda
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Old 19-10-2009, 13:39   #5
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to akoby si sa spytal, ci ludia maju vlasy a obliekaju si tricka
a ani temu si netrafil
vela stastia pri studiu plemena, potom sa skus vratit a spytat sa nieco k veci
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Old 21-10-2009, 20:58   #6
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I added for "Find dogs born in year:" the mean COI (on 5 and 8 generations) for the chosen year. This gives since 1990:

Mean COI on 8 generations:



Mean COI on 5 generations:



So if the former rule was to try to be less than 10% on 5 generations, let's roll the new rule, less than 5% on 5 generations.
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Old 22-10-2009, 10:24   #7
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COI predpokladam ze je Coefficient of inbreeding, cize v laickom preklade miera pribuzenskej plemenitby. Pekne ze je mozne sledovat trendy v case. Pokial viem, Elf vytvoril (alebo pracuje) na moznosti vyhladavania aj podla krajiny, takze by sa teoreticky dalo sledovat rozne tendy v roznych krajinach.
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Old 22-10-2009, 13:24   #8
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Thanks for traduction Saschia.

Added also average AVK (in "Find dogs born in year:" and "Find breeder"). This gives since 1990:

Average AVK on 8 generations:



Average AVK on 5 generations:

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