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Old 25-11-2009, 19:25   #1
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Look at this clip please.
What is the greenish gadget the trainers are carrying in their belt?
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Old 25-11-2009, 19:43   #2
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hmm, smell it? or like target in clicker training? or sound?
very interesing
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Old 25-11-2009, 19:55   #3
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hmm, smell it? or like target in clicker training? or sound?
very interesing
I don't know what it is. Possibly some kind of target but no clicker training
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if this is in Youtube, maybe cann send to this video author PM and he reply who is this miracle
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Old 25-11-2009, 20:52   #5
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I hope it is just for learning, as it looks very ridicules and anti obedient to me, as the dogs go a bit crazy

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Old 26-11-2009, 14:09   #6
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1.For me this looks like a very bad idea, as this is learning the dog to focus on your hips and not at your face as it should, which makes it more difficult to control the movement of the dog...

2.By having this green thing on your left hip, by time you are forcing the dog to walk just a little bit behind you, as the natural position of the dog would be slightly behind you, so the dog can reach the green thing with the nose without any effort, according to rules of obedience, the dogs shoulder should be next your knee !

3.Not everything that looks easy is good, the more you are working with your dog, the more you are bonding and the better relationship you will have in the end

...ofcourse this is only my opinions and I am no expert at all.
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Old 26-11-2009, 15:47   #7
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1.For me this looks like a very bad idea, as this is learning the dog to focus on your hips and not at your face as it should, which makes it more difficult to control the movement of the dog...

2.By having this green thing on your left hip, by time you are forcing the dog to walk just a little bit behind you, as the natural position of the dog would be slightly behind you, so the dog can reach the green thing with the nose without any effort, according to rules of obedience, the dogs shoulder should be next your knee !

3.Not everything that looks easy is good, the more you are working with your dog, the more you are bonding and the better relationship you will have in the end

...ofcourse this is only my opinions and I am no expert at all.
Thanks for the feedback.The question of this gadget was raised on a Norwegian forum, I've no intention of using it myself

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hi

and any one have try this with CSV ?? because i don't think so keep all the time the attention than one other breed .

i think more 4 times and the csv stop go away

the csv like working for him and for the owner but does any one have try to throw the bullet to the dog how many time your dog play at this game ?

this gadget is interresting for start one dog but as so fast as possible it will stop and change because on contest this gadget are forbiden ( but for training .. realy interresting )
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and any one have try this with CSV ?? because i don't think so keep all the time the attention than one other breed .

i think more 4 times and the csv stop go away

the csv like working for him and for the owner but does any one have try to throw the bullet to the dog how many time your dog play at this game ?

this gadget is interresting for start one dog but as so fast as possible it will stop and change because on contest this gadget are forbiden ( but for training .. realy interresting )
I really don`t think it would be good for the beginning of training a dog, as the dog will learn to be at a wrong position from the beginning(slightly behind the owner) and you have to correct it later, maybe if you put in the forhead it would be good

I would still say that 3-5 pieces of meat in the mouth is much better, as the dog will look at you face and not your hips + you can spit it out as a reward, which is not possible with the green thing ....and it is not forbidden to eat some meat just before a contest, so the dog don`t know if you have meat for it or not.
My dog will do the same excerscise many times for food, but for sure not for that green thing
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What is the greenish gadget the trainers are carrying in their belt?
Superglue with remote control? Elastic invisible rope? Concentrated smell of a female in heat? Sounds of friendly howling at extra high frequencies? I'm for a magnet, provided the dog has a metal implant in its nose!
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i'm agree with you

i'm prefere give some food for the dog i'm prefere take the necessary time with a good relation. ( give food by my mouth )

on the video the dog's walking is not natural and on obédiance it's importante.

many possibilities for learning one at one dog i never learn to my dog with gadget somme food but 90% of the time just relation ; it took more time but it's more sure for the futur

because i think with one CSV it has fun ;step by step the wolfdog won't be on working he will stop so fast (not interesting )

i'm not agree for this working but .... why not )
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