Misleading article about Hybrids and Wolfdogs

[Puma]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...half-wolf.html

Here we go again...

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Hi,

why is this article misleading?
The last sentence of Dogs Today's editor, Ms Beverley Cudd is absolutely correct and speaks for itself.

"Wolves are wonderful and much maligned in children's fiction, but they are hugely different from dogs and should be kept separate.
Hybrids are a potential disaster area."

Or do you mean misleading in the sense of confusing the two recognized breeds with high content hybrids?
Then you're right, more dangerous than hybrids, at least to our breed are people like this Richardson guy.
Alone his following sentence "The big bad wolf is misleading." in connection with his statement demonstrates that he hasn't got a clue what he's drivelling on about.

Michael

[Puma]

The title, how catchy it may be, is quite misleading in my opinion.

And the fact, that in one sentence, hybrids are mentioned together with Saarloos and Czechoslovakian wolfdogs, makes a lot of people, not familiar with our wolfdogs, believe that hybrids AND wolfdogs are a danger to humans.

It is these 2 sentences, that I do not like:

""
“The hybrid - along with the Czechoslovakian wolfdog and the sarloos - are difficult dogs, but not in a dangerous s ense.”
However, Beverley Cuddy, editor of Dogs Today, added: “The relaxation in the law seems madness. To live in a domestic situation with a part-wolf is insane.
""
Maybe misleading isn't the right word, but simplistic it is to me.

[michaelundinaeichhorn]

Originally Posted by Puma

The title, how catchy it may be, is quite misleading in my opinion.

And the fact, that in one sentence, hybrids are mentioned together with Saarloos and Czechoslovakian wolfdogs, makes a lot of people, not familiar with our wolfdogs, believe that hybrids AND wolfdogs are a danger to humans.

I'm absolutely with you.

Michael

[Rona]

Originally Posted by Puma

Maybe misleading isn't the right word, but simplistic it is to me.

I agree with you, too!

[Nebulosa]

For everything we could see here with the CzW and all the polemic and problems UK breeders already bring for the breed, I start to wonder if wasn't one huge mistake unbann the breed and hybrids from UK.

This richardson is a nice exemple of what i'm talking about, with a small search on google we can arrive at the conclusion that seems its almost impossible to this people breed a breed of dog, all they talk about " wolf look a like" breeding several "breeds" together with CzW, utonagans, Saarloos, wolfhybrids and so on, its simply crazy to me.

[hanninadina]

Before you discuss in a not objectiv way please read this

http://www.defra.gov.uk/wildlife-pet...a-wolfdogs.pdf


and the dog attack from Merrit Clifton

http://www.tegenpitjes.info/biblioth...lifton2008.pdf

If you read and understand what there is written you will understand why in great britain it is allowed to have wolfdogs from F 3 up.

Every csw is more aggressiv than a normal american wolfdog. Sorry to say, what Richardson say, that they are more social is absolutely right. And he expresses directly that in the right place, with the right people and in the right environment! That means clearly that wolfdogs are not for everyone!

And sorry to say "hybrids" do not attack adults. And with children you never should let a child alone. I have one example the danish dog from Heinz Rudolf Kunze a famous german singer and song writer killed in 1998 the 3 year old child from a friend who did know the dog perfectly and even the child!

In Cliftons dog attack you can see, that breeds like american pit bull, rottweiler or the northern breeds (malamute, husky, chowchow) killed quite more people than hybrids! And they do kill everything: adults and children!

So if you keep the children save there will be no problem! I am sorry to say I have no problems with my two csw but I have less problems with my american wolfdog! And all people I know who have american wolfdogs do have the same experiences!

The people in great britain had very experienced professors who did work and live with over hundreds wolfdogs and dozens of wolves and they all state that from F3 up you will have a dog.

Please remember we do have here - may be not now - F 4 csw like Kondor. And of course all we know he is (was) an aggressiv wolfdog hybrid! But the aggressivness did come from german shepard and not from the wolf!

Christian

[Joswolf]

Most adult and socialised wolves do attack people who misbehave. All the socialised wolves are difficult to let strange people savely in the fences.
Wolfhybrides can attack as well. Some weeks ago some did in Holland and are taken away now. So I do not agree that socialised wolves are harmless. Likely F1 are also not harmless. You should not act as if it's easy becouse it is not.
Jos

[Rona]

Originally Posted by Joswolf

Most adult and socialised wolves do attack people who misbehave. All the socialised wolves are difficult to let strange people savely in the fences.
Wolfhybrides can attack as well. Some weeks ago some did in Holland and are taken away now. So I do not agree that socialised wolves are harmless. Likely F1 are also not harmless. You should not act as if it's easy becouse it is not.
Jos

I consider humans to be defninitely less harmless than dogs or wolfdogs Just take statistics and study violence rates in any society...

[Margo]

Originally Posted by hanninadina

And of course all we know he is (was) an aggressiv wolfdog hybrid!

One question: DID YOU EVER MEET KONDOR? Do you really know what are you talking about? Sorry but I know this dog and I met him several times. All you can say about him is that he is a dog doing perfectly him work - doing this what the dogs was trained for....

[Bugle]

Originally Posted by Puma

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...half-wolf.html

Here we go again...

I agree !! And WHEN will we ever get away from the term of "hybrid" to describe a wolf cross. It is totally inaccuate, and guaranteed to send me into paroxyms of rage !!