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jasmine · 10-11-2009, 12:36

I sent the datas to "add dog" as well like Kerstin, the result is the same.
Moreover I have found a lot of kennels with missing datas, much more missing datas like mine and they are still in the breeders list and theire litters are still on the ad page.
So Dear Admin , please tell us the way of your selection....

Edit

wilczakrew · 10-11-2009, 20:04

New Admins. Well, maybe a better GIG BROTHER.
You are the terror of kennel.

Margo can not even sleep peacefully.
Is not complemented by data from the last two litters.

Well but it is not in danger.
Often talking to admin.

Well, of course, but it is advertising the litter Wickey & Czambor

admin · 10-11-2009, 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasmine

Hello ,

It is not realy fair and correct.
I sent every datas of my last litters several times and nothing happened..........

Edit

As far I know it was explained here several times already. If can see HERE:
http://www.wolfdog.org/eng/dbase/
that the last update of the database was made BEFORE you send the data. Because till now the data was not updated it can not be visible. It apply also to other kennels.

NO UPDATE = NO NEW DATA

admin · 10-11-2009, 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilczakrew

New Admins. Well, maybe a better GIG BROTHER.
You are the terror of kennel.

Margo can not even sleep peacefully.
Is not complemented by data from the last two litters.

Well but it is not in danger.
Often talking to admin.

Well, of course, but it is advertising the litter Wickey & Czambor

I see your personal rules are really strange. I will try to explain something to you. If you buy a car, house, boat or something you must PAY for it the given price. If you do not do it the court or the collector will take them from you. Not because the country and the system do not like you but because so are the RULES and you signed them.

Wolfdog.org offers to breeders FREE advertisement of litters for which usually many breeders have to pay several hundreds of EUR. All we ask is to send us some information. NOTHING MORE!
If you think it is not fair we can change the rule and we will ask NOTHING (no information) just the money. Do you think it will be more fair?
Many breeders earn thanks to Wolfdog THOUSENDS of EUR but have problems to donate us 5 minutes of their "precious" time. Sorry but we have enough honest and fair breeders for whom given word, signed requirement is a holy thing and they fulfill their duties in 100%. So why should we ignore them and help "black sheeps" who are interested only in their own profits? I prefer to remove breeders who don't want to be fair and advertise only breeders which are fair and honest to us....

wilczakrew · 10-11-2009, 22:30

The database is updated daily.

Someone changed data in the pages of dogs.
Someone added the results of the exhibitions.
Someone changed a thousand other things in the database.
Everything what is on the WD, it is a data base.

That's all people are doing with the appropriate permissions through the admin panel.

Through such actions in the database errors created.

Then someone does a comprehensive update of the database in a text file.

Breeding of Peronówka is not supplemented by data on at least two litters.
Why breeding of Peronówka is present in the database ?.
While other breeders were removed from it.

admin · 10-11-2009, 23:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilczakrew

Someone changed data in the pages of dogs.

It is just your imagination. The data in the database was not updated since 04-10-2009.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilczakrew

Breeding of Peronówka is not supplemented by data on at least two litters.
Why breeding of Peronówka is present in the database ?.
While other breeders were removed from it.

Oh, this is your problem

- PURE ENVIOUSNESS
I must disappoint you - Margo sent me all information about her last litters already long time ago. Fast and diligent as she always do. Now I'm sorry that she is attacked by people like you only because I had no time to update the database.

I really can not help you in this case. All I can do is to feel sorrow for Margo to have such type of people in her country to deal with.

wilczakrew · 11-11-2009, 01:25

Dear all-knowing Big Brother.

My imagination can kill. It can also lead to loss of mental health.

I know what it is the database. You can see that you have a problem with that.

In this case all the fuss is your fault.

Now I know why you can not be disclosed.

Anyone who adds any information on the WD, adds them to a single database. WD is one of the whole database.
Date 04-10-2009 does not appeal to me.
Much information has changed on WD within a month.

~ 22-10-2009 modification of the Osieczna Bonitations
~ 15-10-2009 modification of a reproductor
~ 18-10-2009 modified card Czambor
~ 05-11-2009 changes to the list of planned litters
~ 06-10-2009 changes to the list of planned litters

Is it specified below are not in the database. ?

You Read what is written in advance.

Then we can fantasize together.

martiou07 · 11-11-2009, 02:14

yes we would like all that all goes quickly, it is human

,it is always necessary to complain….

But just one thing, return hopes work to be brought for this site!!!!!

Me I do not have to complain, and I would never thank enough the admins for putting to us between the hands a site such as wolfdog.org!!!!

I find odd this lack of patience on behalf of wolfdog owner

mijke · 11-11-2009, 02:52

Pffffffft

What is this all about...........?

Maybe there are simple reasons, why some things on the site changes before the total update!

Wilczakrew I don't know you and you don't me

But for your info: I am just a simple moderator of the Dutch forum. And I am not a member of any camp/group/family here

I also even don't know who is the admin

But I know I can change/add some things before the total update of the site, like in the list of planned litters.
So maybe that is also an explanation why some other things can change before the update

Sometimes I am really wondering why people are so aggressive and suggest there all kind suspicious theory’s….

Don’t they realize we all have the same goal: the best for the CsW breed?
Don’t they realize that there are profits for breeders who cooperate and share info?
Don’t they realize this is a private site and they can leave it when they are not satisfied or interested?
Don’t they realize that all moderators and the admin spend weekly a lot of hours as volunteers for a site for everyone of you?
Don’t they realize that all these people have (beside the wolfdog site) , also have work, family, animals, problems and so on, of their own like all of you?

( A small example for your info Wilczakrew, I just did came home very tired of my work, but before I went to bed, I was reading and answering my wolfdog PM´s and after that the last posts, while you were probably already asleep
`

And:

Yes I also know there are still mistakes and missing info on this site
Yes I also know not all your info is added at the same day

And NO, I also know we never can satisfy you all!

But it would be very nice to receive sometimes a bit of understanding for all the work all the volunteers of this site do ( and what you can’t see at the same day you did add or send the info )!
Instead of complains and all kind of negative suggestions…..

Best regards,

wilczakrew · 11-11-2009, 03:39

Mijke is not what you think.
I do not deny. I am not attacking anyone. I am very grateful that someone is working on this.
I know how much dedication is to you and others.
I know how precious is the time for each person, because I do not have too much.
I'm interested in why someone is lying in the name of ideii.
Wd rules should be for all the same.
No data - Lock - suspension - removal.
Unfortunately, you yourself know that it is otherwise.
On each of these versions, some people write something completely different. On the same topic.
I will not give you examples.
This is what not let me sleep longer.

Maybe let the breeders pay for advertising on the WD. Like pay for their servers, pages, etc.
If someone puts pressure on someone he did not blackmail it is better.
This should not be carried out data acquisition method.
Excuse me if something is not understood.
Best regards

admin · 11-11-2009, 11:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilczakrew

Wd rules should be for all the same.
No data - Lock - suspension - removal.

It works like this. But what YOU ask us to do is to make the same steps against breeders who didin't send us the database (because the puppies are born right now) and against breeders who didn't send us the data since 2-3 YEARS!!!

Don't you see the difference?

Sorry but what you ask us to do, what you fight for are the "parasites".
Many people work on Wolfdog.org, many breeders, owners and breed fanciers build this site. They scarify their free time, work. But as always there are also people exploiting their work. At the moment you are attacking the people trying to build this site and you are defending the "parasites"...

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilczakrew

Maybe let the breeders pay for advertising on the WD. Like pay for their servers, pages, etc.

I love this site exactly because it is free. Not the MONEY but the WILL to serve this breed is all what Wolfdog.org ask from you. You do not pay in EUR but with free time you spent here. Thank to it you can meet here all great Wolfdog breeders.
If you want to support puppy farms, to make payed site for puppy producers who earn money by means of breeding Wolfdogs and they will be prepared to pay for everything - you can do this: make you own site about Wolfdogs!

Hanka · 11-11-2009, 11:18

Hello admin,
have you got my email with dates of my last litter? Do you know that "add dog" does not work well? Or was it some other mistake? Can you tell me what was bad? If "add dog" works bad, I will not use it next time.....
Maybe you had not dates of my last litter, but I don´t understand why you delete add what is on wolfdog page already........
Is it any punishment? Why?
Margo, thanks you added there my add (which was deleted later, unfortunatelly).
I think, uploading 1x monthly is not good, especially in autumn, when is almost every day mated a few females.......

wilczakrew · 11-11-2009, 20:50

War of the proceeds will be and the more, then begin to do less influence.
Leave, Trole, black sheep, Rolfow & co, parasites and thieves alone.

Let the Admin oblige itself to update the database by the end of November.
Let the breeder to 20 November will oblige to provide all the required data.
Let the Admin give the data to be sent.
Let him acknowledge receipt of such data.
Let no one in the database inserts the names of new owners.
If the owner will feel like it will complement these data alone.
Let a breeder and breeding will be complete.
You can check that the breeder does not complement the data.
Admin will complement advertising litters only for breeders that meet specific criteria.
The rest of the breeder, which does not transmit the basic data will not have advertising litters.
Basic data include: dog names, dates of birth, registration, parents.
This approach is probably satisfactory for all.

Sorry for mistakes.

krzyg · 11-11-2009, 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilczakrew

Anyone who adds any information on the WD, adds them to a single database. WD is one of the whole database.

Date 04-10-2009 does not appeal to me.
Much information has changed on WD within a month.

~ 22-10-2009 modification of the Osieczna Bonitations
~ 15-10-2009 modification of a reproductor
~ 18-10-2009 modified card Czambor
~ 05-11-2009 changes to the list of planned litters
~ 06-10-2009 changes to the list of planned litters

Is it specified below are not in the database. ?

As far as I know there is no rule forcing that web site such as wolfdog has to be build on only one database. Every part of page can be rendered using data from diferent sources. To know for sure how many databases use wolfdog - You have to check in source code. In other case You are just fantasizing.

admin · 11-11-2009, 21:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilczakrew

Let the Admin oblige itself to update the database by the end of November.
Let the breeder to 20 November will oblige to provide all the required data.
Let the Admin give the data to be sent.
Let him acknowledge receipt of such data.
Let no one in the database inserts the names of new owners.
If the owner will feel like it will complement these data alone.
Let a breeder and breeding will be complete.
You can check that the breeder does not complement the data.
Admin will complement advertising litters only for breeders that meet specific criteria.
The rest of the breeder, which does not transmit the basic data will not have advertising litters.
Basic data include: dog names, dates of birth, registration, parents.
This approach is probably satisfactory for all.

No problem. So I have an idea for you: check the whole database - every card of the 12064 Wolfdogs posted there. Write down all missing information . Inform all 986 breeders. Collect the data. And the collected data send to me.
Maybe after it you will finally get what you are asking for...

Good work!

See ya on 20. November...

wilczakrew · 11-11-2009, 21:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admin

No problem. So I have an idea for you: check the whole database - every card of the 12064 Wolfdogs posted there. Write down all missing information . Inform all 986 breeders. Collect the data. And the collected data send to me.
Maybe after it you will finally get what you are asking for...

Good work!

See ya on 20. November...

Please give me the appropriate permissions.
Unfortunately, I do not see all the data on the cards.
I am very happy I can help in completing the database, instead of wasting time quarreling.

I think these people will be more and we will do so as soon as possible.

admin · 11-11-2009, 21:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilczakrew

Please give me the appropriate permissions.
Unfortunately, I do not see all the data on the cards.
I am very happy I can help in completing the database, instead of wasting time quarreling.

I think these people will be more and we will do so as soon as possible.

You can see everything you need. All data which we collect are visible for you. You can start....

wilczakrew · 11-11-2009, 21:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admin

You can see everything you need. All data which we collect are visible for you. You can start....

But unfortunately I do not see the registration numbers.
I can not begin.

Rona · 12-11-2009, 07:52

Great talkers are little doers

Hanka · 12-11-2009, 08:03

So once again......
Hello admin,
have you got my email with dates of my last litter? Do you know that "add dog" does not work well? Or was it some other mistake? Can you tell me what was bad? If "add dog" works bad, I will not use it next time.....
Maybe you had not dates of my last litter, but I don´t understand why you delete add what is on wolfdog page already........
Is it any punishment? Why?
Margo, thanks you added there my add (which was deleted later, unfortunatelly).
I think, uploading 1x monthly is not good, especially in autumn, when is almost every day mated a few females.......

10-11-2009, 20:04	#42
wilczakrew Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,265	New Admins. Well, maybe a better GIG BROTHER. You are the terror of kennel. Margo can not even sleep peacefully. Is not complemented by data from the last two litters. Well but it is not in danger. Often talking to admin. Well, of course, but it is advertising the litter Wickey & Czambor Last edited by wilczakrew; 10-11-2009 at 20:07.

11-11-2009, 02:14	#48
martiou07 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: France Posts: 1,986	yes we would like all that all goes quickly, it is human ,it is always necessary to complain…. But just one thing, return hopes work to be brought for this site!!!!! Me I do not have to complain, and I would never thank enough the admins for putting to us between the hands a site such as wolfdog.org!!!! I find odd this lack of patience on behalf of wolfdog owner __________________

11-11-2009, 02:52	#49
mijke Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Warnsveld Posts: 2,033	Pffffffft What is this all about...........? Maybe there are simple reasons, why some things on the site changes before the total update! Wilczakrew I don't know you and you don't me But for your info: I am just a simple moderator of the Dutch forum. And I am not a member of any camp/group/family here I also even don't know who is the admin But I know I can change/add some things before the total update of the site, like in the list of planned litters. So maybe that is also an explanation why some other things can change before the update Sometimes I am really wondering why people are so aggressive and suggest there all kind suspicious theory’s…. Don’t they realize we all have the same goal: the best for the CsW breed? Don’t they realize that there are profits for breeders who cooperate and share info? Don’t they realize this is a private site and they can leave it when they are not satisfied or interested? Don’t they realize that all moderators and the admin spend weekly a lot of hours as volunteers for a site for everyone of you? Don’t they realize that all these people have (beside the wolfdog site) , also have work, family, animals, problems and so on, of their own like all of you? ( A small example for your info Wilczakrew, I just did came home very tired of my work, but before I went to bed, I was reading and answering my wolfdog PM´s and after that the last posts, while you were probably already asleep ` And: Yes I also know there are still mistakes and missing info on this site Yes I also know not all your info is added at the same day And NO, I also know we never can satisfy you all! But it would be very nice to receive sometimes a bit of understanding for all the work all the volunteers of this site do ( and what you can’t see at the same day you did add or send the info )! Instead of complains and all kind of negative suggestions….. Best regards, __________________ Vriendelijke groeten, Mijke PS: I am not a moderator anymore!!

12-11-2009, 07:52	#59
Rona Distinguished Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Kraków Posts: 3,509	Great talkers are little doers __________________

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10-11-2009, 12:36	#41
jasmine Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 188	I sent the datas to "add dog" as well like Kerstin, the result is the same. Moreover I have found a lot of kennels with missing datas, much more missing datas like mine and they are still in the breeders list and theire litters are still on the ad page. So Dear Admin , please tell us the way of your selection.... Edit

10-11-2009, 22:30	#45
wilczakrew Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,265	The database is updated daily. Someone changed data in the pages of dogs. Someone added the results of the exhibitions. Someone changed a thousand other things in the database. Everything what is on the WD, it is a data base. That's all people are doing with the appropriate permissions through the admin panel. Through such actions in the database errors created. Then someone does a comprehensive update of the database in a text file. Breeding of Peronówka is not supplemented by data on at least two litters. Why breeding of Peronówka is present in the database ?. While other breeders were removed from it.

11-11-2009, 01:25	#47
wilczakrew Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,265	Dear all-knowing Big Brother. My imagination can kill. It can also lead to loss of mental health. I know what it is the database. You can see that you have a problem with that. In this case all the fuss is your fault. Now I know why you can not be disclosed. Anyone who adds any information on the WD, adds them to a single database. WD is one of the whole database. Date 04-10-2009 does not appeal to me. Much information has changed on WD within a month. ~ 22-10-2009 modification of the Osieczna Bonitations ~ 15-10-2009 modification of a reproductor ~ 18-10-2009 modified card Czambor ~ 05-11-2009 changes to the list of planned litters ~ 06-10-2009 changes to the list of planned litters Is it specified below are not in the database. ? You Read what is written in advance. Then we can fantasize together.

11-11-2009, 03:39	#50
wilczakrew Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,265	Mijke is not what you think. I do not deny. I am not attacking anyone. I am very grateful that someone is working on this. I know how much dedication is to you and others. I know how precious is the time for each person, because I do not have too much. I'm interested in why someone is lying in the name of ideii. Wd rules should be for all the same. No data - Lock - suspension - removal. Unfortunately, you yourself know that it is otherwise. On each of these versions, some people write something completely different. On the same topic. I will not give you examples. This is what not let me sleep longer. Maybe let the breeders pay for advertising on the WD. Like pay for their servers, pages, etc. If someone puts pressure on someone he did not blackmail it is better. This should not be carried out data acquisition method. Excuse me if something is not understood. Best regards

11-11-2009, 11:18	#52
Hanka Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kadaň Posts: 1,622	Hello admin, have you got my email with dates of my last litter? Do you know that "add dog" does not work well? Or was it some other mistake? Can you tell me what was bad? If "add dog" works bad, I will not use it next time..... Maybe you had not dates of my last litter, but I don´t understand why you delete add what is on wolfdog page already........ Is it any punishment? Why? Margo, thanks you added there my add (which was deleted later, unfortunatelly). I think, uploading 1x monthly is not good, especially in autumn, when is almost every day mated a few females.......

11-11-2009, 20:50	#53
wilczakrew Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,265	War of the proceeds will be and the more, then begin to do less influence. Leave, Trole, black sheep, Rolfow & co, parasites and thieves alone. Let the Admin oblige itself to update the database by the end of November. Let the breeder to 20 November will oblige to provide all the required data. Let the Admin give the data to be sent. Let him acknowledge receipt of such data. Let no one in the database inserts the names of new owners. If the owner will feel like it will complement these data alone. Let a breeder and breeding will be complete. You can check that the breeder does not complement the data. Admin will complement advertising litters only for breeders that meet specific criteria. The rest of the breeder, which does not transmit the basic data will not have advertising litters. Basic data include: dog names, dates of birth, registration, parents. This approach is probably satisfactory for all. Sorry for mistakes.

12-11-2009, 08:03	#60
Hanka Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Kadaň Posts: 1,622	So once again...... Hello admin, have you got my email with dates of my last litter? Do you know that "add dog" does not work well? Or was it some other mistake? Can you tell me what was bad? If "add dog" works bad, I will not use it next time..... Maybe you had not dates of my last litter, but I don´t understand why you delete add what is on wolfdog page already........ Is it any punishment? Why? Margo, thanks you added there my add (which was deleted later, unfortunatelly). I think, uploading 1x monthly is not good, especially in autumn, when is almost every day mated a few females.......