Puppy prices

[Morian]

Originally Posted by saschia

it would be best if one could test all the puppies

this is a good idea for breeders which sell their pups for 1000 eur and more but it's sad we can't be so sure about future hd result

but speaking seriously, i would pay +66 eur (or how much does the test cost) just to be sure that my pup will be healthy.

[saschia]

Originally Posted by Morian

this is a good idea for breeders which sell their pups for 1000 eur and more but it's sad we can't be so sure about future hd result

Yes, if I had a buyer for the pup for Euro 1000, then I'd do the test. But for me it is a lot of money still. Especially if you put together all the things you may want - at least two genetic test are available today, chips (and they are expensive here as they are not used massively yet), pet passports, etc. I'll ask my vet about taking blood samples from the pups before they leave home, I think I'll want to at least save the samples for later.

[Morian]

Originally Posted by saschia

Yes, if I had a buyer for the pup for Euro 1000...

but all slovakian breeders want 1000 eur from us (i mean russians, and for other countries - i just don't know) but some czech breeders want even more... and much more, believe me *
very funny but even at us we have pups from parents which don't have even hd evaluation for the same price and up to 2750 for a non-fci litter

*well... offtopic... but i am still curious what does this price include if normally price is ~400 eur (not for foreign people...)

[saschia]

Originally Posted by Morian

*well... offtopic... but i am still curious what does this price include if normally price is ~400 eur (not for foreign people...)

Yes, I also ask from foreign people 1000 Euro, as that is the value of pups in my opinion (maybe it would be higher if the father was a big champion or what), but until now I only sold in Slovakia and Czech republic, and people won't pay that much money here. Maybe some would, but I am not a good seller. I can get other value from them, like coming to our shows and youth presentation and bonitation, but I can't pay for the test by that...

From me, the price includes tattoo, chip (if interested), appropriate vaccinations, deworming treatment and quite a good basic socialization and upbringing. My previous litter got their Pet Passports and chips at once, as there were only 3 so I could afford it. For foreigners, the Pet passport and chip is automatic, also export pedigree.

[Vaiva]

Originally Posted by saschia

Yes, I also ask from foreign people 1000 Euro, as that is the value of pups in my opinion (maybe it would be higher if the father was a big champion or what), but until now I only sold in Slovakia and Czech republic, and people won't pay that much money here. Maybe some would, but I am not a good seller. I can get other value from them, like coming to our shows and youth presentation and bonitation, but I can't pay for the test by that...

From me, the price includes tattoo, chip (if interested), appropriate vaccinations, deworming treatment and quite a good basic socialization and upbringing. My previous litter got their Pet Passports and chips at once, as there were only 3 so I could afford it. For foreigners, the Pet passport and chip is automatic, also export pedigree.

So you think that people in foreign countries can pay 1000 euro even if slovaks and czechs can't? I would better give a puppy as a gift for a loving family, who will spend a lot of time with a dog, socialise and train him properly and even go to shows, better than sell to someone who only need something expensive to show to others...

We should be kicked to a topic about puppy prices

[martiou07]

here in France, a CSW is sold between 1000 and 1500 euros (sometimes 2000 euros ), I include/understand your request, however to be frank with you, my pups I sell them surroundings 1000 euros, that of course covers my expenses for the range, but also maintenance of my other dogs (food, veterinar...), 4 CSW and 1 Dutch shepherd, as I ensure you as I am nevertheless in the red, this problem interest me much, also I intend to make test my dogs, but from there to make test my pups, honestly, I do not know .

[saschia]

Originally Posted by Vaiva

So you think that people in foreign countries can pay 1000 euro even if slovaks and czechs can't? I would better give a puppy as a gift for a loving family, who will spend a lot of time with a dog, socialise and train him properly and even go to shows, better than sell to someone who only need something expensive to show to others...

The problem is not that they can't, but they won't. Well, it is usually because they can't as that is much higher than their salary and keeping dog is also not cheap, but people who could usually don't want CSW (and are not suited for one either).

I think 1000 Euro is a fair price, but of course I rather sell to good hands for 350 than get 1000 and never know about the pup later. But, I am not a puppy producer, for me it is a hobby and I will never make money on it (even if I was able to sell couple for 1000). But if you have several litters per year you really cannot afford to sponsor the breeding...

By the way, I always wonder why people are willing to pay 2500-3500 euros for pups, no matter what parents. But while there is anybody there willing to pay such prices, there will be people who are selling for such prices.

Originally Posted by Vaiva

We should be kicked to a topic about puppy prices

Second that. Hope some good mod will do exactly that (and I can't, I have mod rights for CZ/SK forum only).