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[kirowan]

hi my name is william.im new on here.very much into wildlife,im a practising falconer,do re enactment and a pagan.my wife and i have a inuit from shoshone kennels shes a beauty.were very much looking to have more wolfie dogs.now a question.which breed is most wolf i/e has more wolf in it.and how difficult is it to obtain a pure wolf ? i do film tv and educational lectures with my trained falcons hawks and eagles.now when experienced enough would like a pure wolf or as near as posible to one.how do i proceed.thanks

The Czechoslovakian Wolfdog is a DOG, not a wolf. While it's true that they were bred by crossing back to a wolf, they were mainly originated from German Shepherds, and at this point have so little wolf content, that they are considered a recognized BREED of dog by kennel clubs throughout the world.

Honestly, I don't understand why anyone would want to own a pure wolf when even dogs that have zero wolf content (like Akitas and Huskies) are hard enough to own. It's also hard just to own and house a wolf hybrid (a dog crossed with a wolf, with high wolf content) let alone a pure wolf, and often times it's illegal without having inspected properties and licenses.

I would check out this website ( http://wolfpark.org/wolfdogs/guidelines.html ), it talks about wolf hybrids and how much work it takes to propperly house and own them. I would do a lot of research if you're really serious about this, and you would need to have tons of dog experience, and actually meet these kinds of animals in person and talk to professionals about them. It's a major underaking that shouldn't be taken lightly. Wolves are wild, not domestic animals.

[Mikael]

Originally Posted by kirowan

hi my name is william.im new on here.very much into wildlife,im a practising falconer,do re enactment and a pagan.my wife and i have a inuit from shoshone kennels shes a beauty.were very much looking to have more wolfie dogs.now a question.which breed is most wolf i/e has more wolf in it.and how difficult is it to obtain a pure wolf ? i do film tv and educational lectures with my trained falcons hawks and eagles.now when experienced enough would like a pure wolf or as near as posible to one.how do i proceed.thanks

I agree whit Vicky...

And normaly if you ask, you are not ready yet to own a wolf

GD where do you live ??? Grenada ???

Best regards / Mikael

[Grin]

Originally Posted by kirowan

how difficult is it to obtain a pure wolf ?

But what for?
Sorry, but honestly; for the moment I can't see any reason for it: just your whim.
If you live (as you say) so close to a wildlife, you should know, the best thing you can do for it, is... to leave it alone.

[Vaiva]

Originally Posted by kirowan

and how difficult is it to obtain a pure wolf ? i do film tv and educational lectures with my trained falcons hawks and eagles.now when experienced enough would like a pure wolf or as near as posible to one.how do i proceed.thanks

Sorry, but this is not a nature lover's talk Maybe nature's consumer for his own image. Leave the wolfs in freedom and stop dreaming about how cool it would be to have a "tame" wild animal lying by your feet

What are your reasons for having a wolf?

[tikaani]

Originally Posted by kirowan

hi my name is william.im new on here.very much into wildlife,im a practising falconer,do re enactment and a pagan.my wife and i have a inuit from shoshone kennels shes a beauty.were very much looking to have more wolfie dogs.now a question.which breed is most wolf i/e has more wolf in it.and how difficult is it to obtain a pure wolf ? i do film tv and educational lectures with my trained falcons hawks and eagles.now when experienced enough would like a pure wolf or as near as posible to one.how do i proceed.thanks

woflves are illegal in the UK so you need a licence. you wont be able to get one over here witch is good as they are NOT pets and would not be fair on it to be kept as one... if you are going to get anything get a cwd, they are now leagal to have in the UK and are amazing animals. Do some reserch first though, theye can be a hand full and you need to spend lots of time with them. any one who says theyll sell you a pure wolf is irisponcible and you will be waisting your money becouse it will prob turn out to be not a wolf at all....it may seem like you want a wolf but trust me is not a good idea,,

[AMERICANI]

Leave Wolves to the zoos and preserves. CZWs ARE AWESOME!! They get attention from everyone (with or without a clue) and It is a wonderful experience just watching them behave and live in the manner they do. BUT!!! if you are just looking for something as an ego booster, get a aquarium with pirhanas and show your buddies how fast a steak dissappears.

[Nebulosa]

Originally Posted by AMERICANI

get a aquarium with pirhanas and show your buddies how fast a steak dissappears.

Better Traíras, when he had enogh of the fishs, he can put it in his swimming pool for a while and when it reach 40 cm its only cook, they're only not such collorful, but have best taste.
A small one in aquarium

[kirowan]

thanks for the input.i think some of you have got the wrong end of the stick.i was only asking i am well aware of uk defra rules.i was told wolf hybrids arew obtainable,and im well aware of the wilderness ive worked in several countrys with wildlife including india with tigers.all of my animals are considered wild.captive bred does not mean domestic.aall animals respond to there proper training to suit individual species.my golden eagle is captive bred but she can take down roe deer and in mongolia they catch wolfs with them.the reason for the hybrid is educational talks and were currently trying to stop eagles being flown at wolfs in middle asia.so what is the best dog to have that is wolf looking.thanks.

[Mikael]

Originally Posted by kirowan

thanks for the input.i think some of you have got the wrong end of the stick.i was only asking i am well aware of uk defra rules.i was told wolf hybrids arew obtainable,and im well aware of the wilderness ive worked in several countrys with wildlife including india with tigers.all of my animals are considered wild.captive bred does not mean domestic.aall animals respond to there proper training to suit individual species.my golden eagle is captive bred but she can take down roe deer and in mongolia they catch wolfs with them.the reason for the hybrid is educational talks and were currently trying to stop eagles being flown at wolfs in middle asia.so what is the best dog to have that is wolf looking.thanks.

OK I se, you live in GB not GD as it say in your info

But way can you not use your inuit from shoshone kennel ???

I think a pure wolf will realy make your work harder, if possible at all

Regards / Mikael

[Vaiva]

Originally Posted by kirowan

thanks for the input.i think some of you have got the wrong end of the stick.i was only asking i am well aware of uk defra rules.i was told wolf hybrids arew obtainable,and im well aware of the wilderness ive worked in several countrys with wildlife including india with tigers.all of my animals are considered wild.captive bred does not mean domestic.aall animals respond to there proper training to suit individual species.my golden eagle is captive bred but she can take down roe deer and in mongolia they catch wolfs with them.the reason for the hybrid is educational talks and were currently trying to stop eagles being flown at wolfs in middle asia.so what is the best dog to have that is wolf looking.thanks.

So you should officially contact zoo's or some reservations and say you are looking for a wolf for educational uses

[Mikael]

Originally Posted by kirowan

so what is the best dog to have that is wolf looking.thanks.

I think, you can train alot of differant breeds to do your work or a mix breed...

What you need is a dog that is easy to train and look like a wolf...

I think you can use a CsV, but there is more easy breeds to own and train, that allso looks like wolfs, and I think that is what you are to look for, as a wolf or a mix whit wolf (hybrid) is not easy at all to work whit...

Maby this breed is something for you http://www.tamaskan-dog.com/
As I think a CsV will be very hard for you to get, as you live in UK, and this breed is more easy to train and own, as there is no wolf blood added...

Best regards / Mikael

[kirowan]

Originally Posted by AMERICANI

Leave Wolves to the zoos and preserves. CZWs ARE AWESOME!! They get attention from everyone (with or without a clue) and It is a wonderful experience just watching them behave and live in the manner they do. BUT!!! if you are just looking for something as an ego booster, get a aquarium with pirhanas and show your buddies how fast a steak dissappears.

funny ive had natteri ie red pirhana.dont suffer ego problems,but i do get totally involved in my work and conservation my friend. i also hunt quite a lot.whats the old saying.never judge a book by its cover.

[AMERICANI]

Hey man, I love and respect wildlife conservation, hunting, fishing, and the works. No hard feelings intended, just looking out for the best interests of our dogs and community. I hope you realize some of the misguided issues revolving around our breed worldwide. We (the majority of CzW owners) want the best reputation, and we should be very careful sometimes... I love Pirhanas... I don't have any ego issues either

[kirowan]

Originally Posted by AMERICANI

Hey man, I love and respect wildlife conservation, hunting, fishing, and the works. No hard feelings intended, just looking out for the best interests of our dogs and community. I hope you realize some of the misguided issues revolving around our breed worldwide. We (the majority of CzW owners) want the best reputation, and we should be very careful sometimes... I love Pirhanas... I don't have any ego issues either

no probs i understand.you have to show your dedicated and have the right intentions.love your running wolf