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Old 18-12-2013, 19:13   #1
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http://www.ilrestodelcarlino.it/mode...equestri.shtml

..Dangerous crossings between wolves and Czechoslovakian wolfdog: 11 samples seized in the Modenese...

Modena, December 18th, 2013 - Crossings "dangerous" made ​​with "wild wolves (Canis lupus spp) with dogs belonging to the breed Czechoslovakian Wolf (Ceskoslovensky vlciak)." The Forest Service discovered them during an operation conducted by the staff of the Service Center Cites of Rome in different Italian regions, in collaboration with the teams of the Provincial Police investigative environmental and forest of the eight affected provinces (Alessandria, Salerno, Pistoia, Modena, Parma Rimini, Cosenza and Arezzo).
Seized 37 animals (ten in Modena) Czechoslovakian wolf dog hybrid of the first generation...

http://www.geapress.org/ambiente/tra...-stato-2/49908

...Among the wolves of the Apennines, the blood of the North American wolf - The disturbing hypothesis of the investigation of the State Forestry
Eight breeders sued. Wolves of foreign origin mated with the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog
Editorial | December 18, 2013

Czechoslovakian wolf dog, wolf in reality crosses North American, Hungarian and even the Apennines. This hypothesis investigation became the subject of a brilliant operation conducted by the State Forestry Corps. The hypothesis, however, more amazing, is that of a North American wolf, which would often be found free in the woods of the Apennines mating with the wild wolf Italian and generating hybrids now forming part of the wildlife of our country...
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Old 18-12-2013, 20:01   #2
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Old 18-12-2013, 23:08   #3
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I see the police took also the F1 crosses. So it is true what the people were telling for a longer time - that Fabio was using his contact in Czech Republic and importing more Wolves to Italy... :/ In the z Molu Es kennel gallery you can find photos of such Wolves exported to Italy and Finland - for example Chip: http://www.wolfdogs.cz/gallery/displ..._display_media sent to Wolfsirius kennel http://www.wolfdogs.cz/gallery/displ..._display_media (Producer of the F1 crossee like http://www.wolfdog.org/pl/dbase/d/11916 and http://www.wolfdog.org/pl/dbase/d/11911)
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Old 18-12-2013, 23:14   #4
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BTW: The photos of Chip were taken by Daniela Cilova...



I think Czech Club should ask her for her what was her part in this case. And what she knows about this "Finish" Wolf and the crosses at Wolfsirius....
For a long time Daniela was one of the people who supported the project Mutara, but I thought it ended a long time ago... :/
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Old 18-12-2013, 23:18   #5
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...Among the wolves of the Apennines, the blood of the North American wolf - The disturbing hypothesis of the investigation of the State Forestry

The blood of the North American wolf? So it means they took also the "des Loups de l'Ostrevent" AWD crosses imported from France, right?
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Old 19-12-2013, 02:15   #6
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So...are there people who unwittingly own F1 wolfdogs, mixed with of all breeds, the CsV???
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Old 19-12-2013, 13:44   #7
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http://www.corpoforestale.it/flex/cm.../IDPagina/8524


x Jal dove è scritto che hanno sequestrato i cani a Rimini?
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Old 19-12-2013, 15:58   #8
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http://www.corpoforestale.it/flex/cm.../IDPagina/8524


x Jal dove è scritto che hanno sequestrato i cani a Rimini?
http://www.ilrestodelcarlino.it/mode...equestri.shtml
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Old 19-12-2013, 16:24   #9
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non c'è scritto nulla di sequestri a Rimini
prima di scrivere accertati bene potrei citarti per diffammazione

http://www.ilrestodelcarlino.it/mode...equestri.shtml
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"...otto province interessate (Alessandria, Salerno, Pistoia, Modena, Parma, Rimini, Cosenza e Arezzo)."

Pero' non dice a chi appartengono
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non c'è scritto nulla di sequestri a Rimini
prima di scrivere accertati bene potrei citarti per diffammazione

http://www.ilrestodelcarlino.it/mode...equestri.shtml
leggi meglio prima di partire come un tram senza freni...
quarto rigo, primo paragrafo partendo dall'alto escludendo il titolo...
denuncia il Resto del Carlino se ti senti coinvolta...chi ti ha nominato?
siete nervosi? cazzi vostri se lo siete per cattiva coscienza.
e..accertati bene prima di minacciare, potrei far divertire il mio di avvocato....

read better before starting as a tram without brakes ...
fourth line, first paragraph from the top excluding the title ...
Il Resto del Carlino complaint if you feel involved ... who appointed you?
you are nervous? hauls yours if you are up for a bad conscience.
and .. well established before threatening, it can be another lawyer who enjoys ..
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Old 19-12-2013, 18:28   #12
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Anche io non vedo più il numero dei sequestri associati alla provincia. ora c'è un "una decina nel modenese" e basta, mentre i numeri permangono nel sito della forestale, ma ci sono 35 esemplari, i 2 di rimini non ci sono più. Forse qualcuno aveva scritto l'articolo di fretta? penso che così come articoli di giornale vengono modificati e corretti, sarebbe il caso di correggere il primo post anche qui. In tutta onestà mi incaxxerei anche io...

I'm sorry, I entered from the home page, and wrote in italian, even if I am in the english forum. btw, the article on "il resto del carlino" was probably written in a hurry,and by now is not reporting any number connected to any country. Thanks to Jal having corrected the initial information.

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Per quanto riguarda il mio allevamento si che è venuta la forestale a controllare i miei cani perchè c'era una denuncia anonima.
Dopo accurato controllo hanno verificato che i miei cani sono i cani lupi cecoslovacchi puri per cui nessun sequestro!
Ovviamente avendo un allevamento importante c'è tanta invidia.
Comunque le persone meschine si nascondono dietro le denunce anonime false!
Visto che hai corretto messaggio Jal,comunque nessuna coscienza sporca ma tanta invidia da parte della gente verso i miei cani che allevo secondo i canoni di bellezza,carattere e salute !!!!!!!!!!
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Old 19-12-2013, 20:03   #14
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The dogs registred with the kennel name Arimminum are pure. I think police were thinking about mixed puppies of this female
http://www.wolfdog.org/dbase/d/8320
The litter with Quovadis illegal according to the Italian law. According the information it is registered on the husband name. Am I right?
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this is not true, I am separate
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Nothing new under the sun,,, this all we have known for years, but not been able to prove...

I mean mixes in Cz, Italy, Frans + export from this lines,,, Mutara + more + more... Now we are up in 3 generation from mix in some cases,,, so this can effect many hundreds of dogs in the end... Not just in Italy...
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Great, some action..

Hope that there will be more!
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this is not true, I am separate
easy all check- put a this suspicious litters pedigree scan and all can see who are breeder this mixes
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Here are 2 more articles:

http://www.corpoforestale.it/flex/cm.../IDPagina/8524

http://www.tipresentoilcane.com/2013...lla-forestale/

BTW: We have the same word as "Imbecilli" in Polish language. "Imbecyl" is the perfect description for such breeders... :/
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Any further updates on this situation?
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