Go Back   Wolfdog.org forum > English > Dog shows

Dog shows Our show successes, how to prepare a CzW, how to show him...

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-07-2010, 22:51   #1
Gypsy Wolf
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Florida & Minnesota U.S.
Posts: 250
Default AKC Group Classification

Right now the vlcak is tentatively classified by the AKC as a Herding Group breed. I am guessing because it has GSD ancestry - perhaps due also to how FCI classifies the breed?
In reality, the breed was designed to be a Border Patrol dog - not a sheep herding dog. That purpose fits into AKC's Working Group, not Herding.
Vlcaks are still in FSS - I would like to petition AKC to move them into the Working Group classification.
Anyone have comments? Support? For or against?
Gypsy Wolf jest offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2010, 05:06   #2
soniakanavle
Junior Member
 
soniakanavle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Blanco, Texas
Posts: 81
Send a message via AIM to soniakanavle
Default

I agree. They should be in Working, not Herding.
soniakanavle jest offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-07-2010, 13:34   #3
Vicky
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I totally agree and would support changing it. (If it would even mean anything, coming from someone who doesn't even own a CsV! haha)
  Reply With Quote
Old 17-07-2010, 17:42   #4
Gypsy Wolf
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Florida & Minnesota U.S.
Posts: 250
Default

<Grin> "OWN" a CsV? I thinks she owns ME! I think I like the "Working Group" because I have to WORK to keep up with her!
Gypsy Wolf jest offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-07-2010, 17:44   #5
Pavel
Moderator
 
Pavel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,190
Send a message via Skype™ to Pavel
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunas Mom View Post
Right now the vlcak is tentatively classified by the AKC as a Herding Group breed. I am guessing because it has GSD ancestry - perhaps due also to how FCI classifies the breed?
FCi have not "Working" group. CsW is in FCI Group I. - Sheepdogs and Cattle Dogs (except Swiss Cattle Dogs). See http://www.fci.be/nomenclature.aspx. FCI sorted breeds most according origin, not actually using. "Working breeds" are breeds from many FCI groups, they need for champion title some exams. But term "working breed" is not officially name by FCI.
Pavel jest offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-07-2010, 18:11   #6
GalomyOak
Howling Member
 
GalomyOak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Colorado
Posts: 436
Send a message via Skype™ to GalomyOak
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavel View Post
FCi have not "Working" group. CsW is in FCI Group I. - Sheepdogs and Cattle Dogs (except Swiss Cattle Dogs). See http://www.fci.be/nomenclature.aspx. FCI sorted breeds most according origin, not actually using. "Working breeds" are breeds from many FCI groups, they need for champion title some exams. But term "working breed" is not officially name by FCI.
That's what I figured. Most of our "working group" breeds fall under FCI molossoids/pinschers, or the herding group. Pavel, do you think, in this case, it would be acceptable with the FCI and the Slovakian and Czech breed clubs for the AKC to switch the breed from the herding to the working group? It doesn't make too much difference now, since the FCI does not recognize the Foundation Stock Service of the AKC for pedigrees. But one day, when we have full AKC recognition and the FCI will reciprocate with us, I don't want there to be any problems.

Thanks!

Marcy
__________________
"What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us."~Henry David Thoreau http://www.galomyoak.com
GalomyOak jest offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18-07-2010, 20:06   #7
Pavel
Moderator
 
Pavel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,190
Send a message via Skype™ to Pavel
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GalomyOak View Post
Pavel, do you think, in this case, it would be acceptable with the FCI and the Slovakian and Czech breed clubs for the AKC to switch the breed from the herding to the working group?
I dont know the sorting system of AKC. If you need some help or assistance, you can contact Czech and Slovakian Club and ask there directly.
Pavel jest offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 12:54.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
(c) Wolfdog.org