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Old 26-11-2002, 07:51   #21
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Hi,

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The creator of the GSD (Max V. Steph.) picked his foundation stock dogs
FIRST on herding ability (they were all winners of major herding events,
many were represented as 'wolfdogs' by their owners) and later he refined
'the look' of the GSD.
Its the same by CsW. Our race was created in first row for work and
first later come the exterior selection. But today can see, that
exterior selection is the first and the working possibility is
absolutely background only for breed.

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what is working genes ? Genetic is one of my favourite topic :0). How can
you recognise dog with or without "working genes" :0))))).
Maybe I wrote it with wrong terms. "Working gens" I mean "working
possibility" (in Czech we say "gens" or "cells" ) ). And how to
recognise it ? No other system yet, then make a working exam. It
function exactly so by military by creation of race. Dogs without exam
dont come to breed. Because army need 100% really working dogs only.

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Old 26-11-2002, 08:35   #22
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Hi,

I hope that we don't need working titles to our CsVs in order to prevent
banning the breed in any countiers. There are so many breeds that are not so
called working dogs and they aren't on any banned lists, because they are
not aggressive. However, many so called working dog breeds are on those
lists (take for example the Rottweiler), because these breeds are
successfully bread to work as a weapon ... and then when these dogs are in
the wrong hands accidents happen.

What I really like in CsVs are not the GSD characteristics, but the other
ones. They are wonderful and very clever dogs, much more interesting than
any "normal" working dog breed. And every real dog freak can still learn
from them about dog's behaviour. I am much more afraid that the CsV ends up
to be just another GSD.

With this I didn't mean that we should not work with CsVs. My dogs can all
basic obedience and my male dog is pretty good at tracking. But I would not
like to train my dogs to be the same (sorry to say) stupid robots that so
many other dogs are. I would not be proud of the dog that only wants to
please me without using its own head. What I really respect in my dogs are
these qualities that they for example don't want to play with some stupid
ball all the time - they need more intelligent games. Too many GSDs I know
are only running after a ball or defending their toys from other dogs or
from other people while outside and they can't or don't want to play with
other dogs anymore. Would it be sad if CsVs turned out to be like that - to
me it would mean a total loss of their intelligence.

What comes to running 20 or 40 km, I think it is a good idea. How many
breeds are able to do this now a days? At least it would show that CsVs
still can run and are healthy.

What I really love in my dogs is that they are not overly anything (not
overly protective, not too keen on playing and so on) but so extremely
many-sided and clever.

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Short reply to you An,

just buy a GSD (or maybe you own already) and you will be happy. I have own
some GSDs and worked with many (my dogs had titles too) and I certainly
would not like to see CsVs to turn out to be just like they are. I am
absolutely sure that my CsV are less dangerous to people (especially to
children) than my GSDs were, because my CsVs are so clever that they know
that a child or a jogger is not a prey animal ...

If I would like my dog to get a herding title I would buy a border collie. I
happen to know many border collies too: they are herding all the time, they
also do this with children, they are extreme. And that is what I like in
CsVs that they are not yet bred into any special direction.

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Hi to you all.

My own homepage ( http://www.wolfdog.no ) is slowly progressing but still it's a long way to go. This time I like to show my Norwegian visitors the versatility of the CSV as a working breed.

On the "Dogs with certificate" pages of the wolfdog.org site are listed a lot of codes ( ZUV, ZOP etc) which are not easily understood by the visitors, at least not by those visiting my page

I wonder if it's possible to make a short English translation of the codes and a summary of the test referring to the codes?

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Hello Per Olav

Here are some links that migth help you a littlebit:

http://www.nwk9.com/working_titles.htm#title

http://www.nwk9.com/pedigree_czech.htm


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Here are some links that migth help you a littlebit:

http://www.nwk9.com/working_titles.htm#title

http://www.nwk9.com/pedigree_czech.htm


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Thanks, my friend. It helped a bit, but still missing some of the abbreviations used on the "certificate" page.
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Hello Community,

can you please explain to me, what does the dog have to do at following Czech exams:

ZPU 2,
ZM
ZVV1 - 3?

Do you have to pass the previous exam to go to the next step e.g. ZOP, ZPU 1, ZPU 2 and then? Or can you just jump in?

Is there any source where it is translated into English or German?

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can you please explain to me, what does the dog have to do at following Czech exams:

ZPU 2,
ZM
ZVV1 - 3?

Do you have to pass the previous exam to go to the next step e.g. ZOP, ZPU 1, ZPU 2 and then? Or can you just jump in?
Unfortunatelly, there is no translation for these exams. However, to be able to apply for test ZPU 2, you have to first pass test ZOP and then ZPU1.
Also, for applying to ZVV1-3, you have to first pass ZM.

ZOP is more or less simple obedience (on leash, off leash and in group), and with going higher (ZPU1 - ZPU2) the difficulty graduates plus tracking or defence is added to the obedience. ZOP in fact means "zakladni ovladatelnost psa" which is basic controllability of the dog.

ZM is "zakladni minimum" which is "basic minimum". This is test, where all three important parts are tested - tracking, obedience, defence. Going higher (ZVV1-3) the test gets more diffiult, like the track is longer and older, more complicated, the defence is harder and more is asked in obedience etc.
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Thanks Mirka,

I have some more questions: Can you compare ZM/ZVV with SchH/IPO exams with similar exercises or whats different?

What are the differences in the obedience part ZPU1 to ZPU2? On ZPU2 can you choose tracking & obedience only or has to dog to do defence work?

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Thanks Mirka,

I have some more questions: Can you compare ZM/ZVV with SchH/IPO exams with similar exercises or whats different?
No I can´t. This is better explained by somebody, who has "hands on" experience with these tests. I can look at the tests and what is required on them, but I cannot compare them and explain the differences. Theoretically, I believe they are equally difficult, however I find IPO more difficult for CSWs, because IPO is a lot about the speed in which the dog performs, accuracy etc. The Czech exam system (ZM, ZVV) is more about the real use of the dog.

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What are the differences in the obedience part ZPU1 to ZPU2? On ZPU2 can you choose tracking & obedience only or has to dog to do defence work?
All obedience in ZPU1 is done off leash. ZPU1 is still divided into individual obedience with the dog and then obedience in the group. Plus the excersise of the choise - either guarding the object, or tracking.

ZPU2 consists of tracking, obedience and defence. No choices are given, to absolve it, you must do all three things. ZPU2 is close to what is required on ZM or ZVV1. There is no group obedience or other group exercises in ZPU2.

The obedience of ZPU2 is similar to ZPU 1, but harder. For example, in ZPU1 you have simple aport of object. In ZPU2, the dog has to do the aport jumping over obstacle there and back. In ZPU1, the dog has to bark in "heel" position. In ZPU2, the dog must sit one step in front of you and bark etc.
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Is there any source where it is translated into English or German?
So far not...but we plan to translate them.. Not the whole regulations but at last the list of exercises for every exam... I hope it will help...
I hope only that the winter this year will be strong and there will be no more CzW meetings... (it means we will have enough free time to work on it )
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If it can help you Andrea Pecharova (Foresta Incantata Kennel)translated something in italian e maybe exist one translator that can translate from italian to german.
You can read it on :
Foresta Incantata's Website
http://www.forestaincantata.it/Brevetti.htm

or there (my web site,only in italian)
http://www.pilamaya.it/lavoro.htm

and many thanks to Andrea that has permitted me to understand something in this czech exams
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That is a great overview of most exams. I am still thinking about whats harder to understand? Czech or Italian? Maybe/Hopefully sooner or later somebody is able to translate it in English or even better in German I hope. And I hope it is a human....

The Google language translator tried hard, but it did not make any sense. No dog people programming this

But thanks again, I think I know someone I can ask then, when I need to find out something.

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I try translate two of then, if have something wrong, please correct that.
When I have more time if these was fine I can try translate more


Criteria for the ZM test – basic licence
1.Minimal age 12 months
2.For the participation isn’t needed another title.
3.The commands mark on the regulament are:
Z = Acoustic
P = Manual
If the regulation mark the two, can be used one of then ( or acustic or manual) or the two ( acustic and manual)
Excercices and maximun score:

Track
(max. 50 points)
The dog must follow one track previously traced from his handler, with 150 – 200 steps, in right angle and 15 minuts old, the end is indicated with one personal object of the handler, the limit time to do the track is 5 minuts.

Obedience
a) Callback (possiblein the two ways) – Max 10 points
b) Lead with leash – Max 10 points
c) Sit and down with leash – max 10 points
d) Retrieving ( handler’s object) – max 10 points
e) Down out leash ( distance 15 steps) – max 10 points

Defense
a)Searching (30x40 on the land or 80x100 steps on the fiels, two hiding place) – max 10 points
b) Helper signalization – max 10 points
c) Defence of the handler – max 10 points
d) Helpler catch ( 25 steps) – max 10 points
e) Dog’s resistence – max 10 points



Criteria for ZVV1 test - Working universal test for dogs first degree
1) Minimal age 14 months
2) For the participation isn’t needed another title.
3)The commands mark on the regulament are:
Z = Acoustic
P = Manual
If the regulation mark the two, can be used one of then ( or acustic or manual) or the two ( acustic and manual)

Maximum scores and exsercices:
The maximun score is 300 points, minimal 210 points with the condition that in every discipline have been received up to 70 points.

Track
(max. 100 points)
The dog must follow one track previously traced from his handler, with 350 – 400 steps, with 2 right angle and 30 minuts old, the first object is in the track and the second at the end, the limit time to do the track is 10 minuts.

Obedience
a) Callback at foot and in motion – Max 10 points
b) Lead with leash – Max 10 points
c) Sit, down and at foot with leash ( at foot) – max 10 points
d) Stay down in motion – max 10 points
e) Bark ( at foot and with leash) - max. 10 points
f) Retrieving - max. 10 points
g) Jump ( 100cm) - Max. 10 points
h) Jump climbed (180 cm, in one direction) - max. 10 points
i) Low beam ( one direction) - max. 10 points
J) Free down (25 foots of distance) - max 10 points

Defence
a) Finding the helpler:
- Searching at land ( 40x50 steps with four hiding places) - max 10 points
- Signalling the helpler - max 10 points
b) Helpler aprehension (helpler catch)
- Searching the helpler - max. 10 points
- Helpler interrogation - max. 10 points
c) Handler defence
- Unexpected helpler attack during interrogation - max. 15 points
- Control of the dog (leave) - max. 5 points
d) independent dog job
- Helpler aprehension ( 50 steps) - max. 15 points
Control of the dog (leave) - max 5 points
e) Dog's resistence
- attack the dog with 2 blows - max 15 points
- Control of the dog (leave) - max 5 points

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Thank you! I really appriciate your work!

Now we know, what´s on next and we will not be confused.

Great Great Great.

And I am patiently waiting for the others

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One correction, in the ZVV1 defence I write "(out leash)" when the correct is "(leave)" for the dog stop bite, as I put in the ZVV2 and ZVV3

Criteria for ZVV2 test - Working universal test for dogs second degree
1) Minimal age 16 months
2) For the participation is needed the title ZVV1.
3)The commands mark on the regulament are:
Z = Acoustic
P = Manual
If the regulation mark the two, can be used one of then ( or acustic or manual) or the two ( acustic and manual)

Maximum scores and exercices:

Track
(max. 100 points)
The dog must follow one track previously traced from a stranger, with 500 – 600 steps, with 2 right angle and 1 hour old, the first object is in the track and the second at the end, the limit time to do the track is 15 minuts.

Obedience
a) Lead without leash - max 10 points
b) Sit, down and at foot ( one step front the handler) - max 10 points
c) At foot and stay in motion - max 10 points
d) Bark (at foot, one step front of the handler) - max 10 points
e) Crawl for 10 steps with the handler - max 10 points
f) Retrieving with obstacle ( 100cm, 1kg object) - max 10 points
g) Jump high beam ( one direction) - max. 10 points
h) Go ahead (30 steps) - max. 10 points
i) Callback ( of front) - max. 10 points
j) Free down (50 foots of distance) - max 10 points

Defence
a) Finding the helpler:
- Searching at land ( 60x100 steps with six hiding places) - max 10 points
- Signalling the helpler - max 10 points
b) Helpler aprehension (helpler catch)
- Searching and interrogation of the helpler - max. 10 points
- Helpler accompanyment ( 20 steps) - max. 10 points
c) Handler defence:
- Unexpected helpler attack during the search - max. 15 points
- Control of the dog (leave) - max. 5 points
d) independent dog job:
- Helpler aprehension (100 steps) - max. 15 points
Control of the dog (leave) - max 5 points
e) Dog's resistence:
- attack the dog with 2 blows - max 15 points
- Control of the dog (leaves) - max 5 points


Criteria for ZVV3 test - Working universal test for dogs third degree
1) Minimal age 18 months
2) For the participation is needed the title ZVV2.
3)The commands mark on the regulament are:
Z = Acoustic
P = Manual
If the regulation mark the two, can be used one of then ( or acustic or manual) or the two ( acustic and manual)

Maximum scores and exercices:

Track
(max. 100 points)
The dog must follow one track previously traced from a stranger, with 1000 – 1200 steps, with 2 right angle and 3 hour old, the first object is in the track and the second at the end, the limit time to do the track is 20 minuts.

Obedience
a) Lead without leash - max 10 points
b) Sit, down and at foot ( 20 step front the handler) - max 10 points
c) At foot and stay in motion - max 10 points
d) Bark (at foot, 20 step front of the handler) - max 10 points
e) Crawl for 10 steps - max 10 points
f) Retrieving with obstacle climbing ( 1,80m, 1kg object of the organizer) - max 10 points
g) Jump high beam ( both direction) - max. 10 points
h) Go ahead (2 times 50 steps) - max. 10 points
i) Callback ( of front) 2 times - max. 10 points
j) Free down (50 foots of distance handler hidde) - max 10 points

Defence
a) Finding the helpler:
- Searching at land ( 80x100 steps with six hiding places) - max 10 points
- Signalling the helpler barking - max 10 points
b) Helpler aprehension (helpler catch)
- Searching, interrogation and accompanyment of the helpler (20 + 10 steps) - max. 10 points
- Helpler guard ( 2 + 1 min) - max. 10 points
c) Handler defence:
- Unexpected helpler attack during the accompanyment - max. 15 points
- Control of the dog (leave) - max. 5 points
d) independent dog job:
- Helpler aprehension (150 steps) - max. 15 points
- Control of the dog (leave) - max 5 points
e) Dog's resistence:
- That's already with the exercice of the helpler aprehension ( in the counterattack with 2 blows) - max 20 points
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ZOP - Control of the dog licence

Criteria for the licence

1. Minimal age 10 months
2. For the participation isn't needed another title
3. The comands tecnique for the excercises are mark on the memorandu in the exercise description. Generally can be used vocal and manual, or the two in same time.


Licence sumary:

I. Basic

1. Callback - can be chosen one of these two varying:
a) sit in front of the handler ( 10 points)
b) in motion at foot
2) lead with leash ( 10 points)
3) Lead wothout leash ( 10 points)
4) Sit - down - at foot ( with leash 10 points)
5) Stay ( 30 steps distance) ( 10 points)

II. Exercices in group and special exercises

Numer of dogs in the group -> 3-5
The group composition comes checked from the licence responsible with the agrement of the judge

1. lead with lesh in group ( 10 points)
2. Sit - down - at foot in group ( with leash) ( 10 points)
3. Stay in the down position in group ( 30 step distance, 2 min time) ( 10 points)
4. transport of the dog with the arm by the hendler and by one stranger (5 meter + 5 meters, dog with muzzle) ( 10 points)
5. passage on land with strange material with one stop ( 10 points)

Pass in land with strange material must be something like that:



Total 100 points

The minimal needed is 70 points.


ZPU1 - Job licence first degree

Criteria for the test ZPU 1
1) Minimal age 12 months
2) for the participation is needed the ZOP licence
3) Can be used vocal or manual for the commands, also the two at same time.

Exercises and maximun score

I. Basic

1) Callback - can be chosen one of these two varying: (10 points)
a) Sit in front of the handler
b) in motion at foot of the handler
2) Lead without leash ( 10 points)
3) Sit - Down - at foot ( without leash) (10 points)
4) Bark ( sit at foot without leash) ( 10 points)
5) Retrieving ( handler's object) (10 points)
6) Jump (one direction, without leash, dog with handler) (10 points)
7) Jump climbimg ( obstacle type A, one direction without leash, dog with the handler) (10 points)
free down ( 30 steps distance, hiden handler) ( 10 points)
9) Exercises for choose: ( 20 points)
-a) Protect handler's object
-b) Track: of handler, long 100m, 1x right angle, 2 objects
Total: max 100 points, min 70 points

II. Group excercises and special exercises
Number of dogs in the group: 3 - 5.
The size and consistency of the group is only the judge who decides.

1) lead in group without leash ( 10 points)
2) Sit - Down - At foot ( without leash) ( 10 points)
3) Down in motion (10 points)
4) Passage on land with strange material in group ( with leash) (10 points)
5) Indifference to unexpected sound ( 10 points)

Total: max 50 points, min 35 points

Total points for the both test part:

Max 150 points, min 105 points

ZPU2 - Job licence second degree

Criteria for the test ZPU 2
1) Minimal age 12 months
2) for the participation is needed the ZPU1 licence
3) Can be used vocal commands ( exept for the go ahead where is possible use manual), in the track and defence both can be used.

Exercises and maximun score

I. Track

15 min old, of a stranger, long 300m, 2x right angle, 2 object (max 100 points, min 70 points)

II. Obedience

1) Callback front of handler (10 points)
2) Lead without leash ( 10 points)
3) Passage in one group of persons ( 10 points)
4) Sit - Down - at foot ( one step front of handler) (10 points)
5) Bark fron dit position in front of handler ( 10 points)
6) Stay in motion with callback (10 points)
low beam ( one direction) (10 points)
9) Go ahead ( min 15 min) ( 10 points)
10) Free down with hidden handler ( 10 points)

Total: max 100 points, min. 70 points

III. Defense
1) Search in the land ( 30X40 steps, 4 hidden places) (10 points)
2) Helpler signalling barking ( 10 points)
3) Unexpected handler attack (blow stage) (30 points)
4) Catch (30m) (50 points)
Total: Max.100, min. 10 points

TOTAL ( track, obedience, defence) Max. 300 points, min 210 points



ZVP1 - test of dog resistance

For the participation isn't needed any other title, for pass the dog with handler must make the distance of 40km fulfilling the conditions demanded in the time limit of 4 hours.

Valutation
-Until the time 3 hours and 20 minuts is classificated as "Excelent".
-After the time of 3 hours and 20 minuts and until 3 hours and 40 minuts is classificated as "Very good".
-After the time of 3 hours and 40 minuts and until 4 hours is classificated as "good".

After 4 hours from the start of the last participant the judge declare ended the test.
The judge can stop the participant who cleary won't end the test in the estabilished limit.

The ZVP track must fulfill the following conditions:
1) minimal 2/3 of the distance must be on natural land ( grass, path in florest or between the fields ( of beat earth))
2) The start and the end must be on the same point and the legth must be the preset.

The track shape:
a) The circular distance must be long at least 5km
b) The right distance must be long at least 10 km

Check points:
They're preset, where the assistants note the achieved time in the passage of every participant in it's card.
The number of check points depends on the shape and condition of the track, they aways must be in the curve, in locals wich the participand can "cut" distance is needed put other check point, according to the need.
The maximum distance between the chack points can be 10 km, after 10 km water must be available for the dogs.

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ZVP2 - Test of dog resistence 2º degree
For the participation is needed the title ZVP1, for pass the dog with handler must make the distance of 70km fulfilling the conditions demanded in the time limit of 7 hours.

Valutation
-Until the time 5 hours and 50 minuts is classificated as "Excelent".
-After the time of 5 hours and 50 minuts and until 6 hours and 40 minuts is classificated as "Very good".
-After the time of 6 hours and 20 minuts and until 7 hours is classificated as "good".

After 7 hours from the start of the last participant the judge declare ended the test.
The judge can stop the participant who cleary won't end the test in the estabilished limit.

The ZVP track must fulfill the following conditions:
1) minimal 2/3 of the distance must be on natural land ( grass, path in florest or between the fields ( of beat earth))
2) The start and the end must be on the same point and the legth must be the preset.

The track shape:
a) The circular distance must be long at least 10km
b) The right distance must be long at least 10 km

Check points:
They're preset, where the assistants note the achieved time in the passage of every participant in it's card.
The number of check points depends on the shape and condition of the track, they aways must be in the curve, in locals wich the participand can "cut" distance is needed put other check point, according to the need.
The maximum distance between the chack points can be 15 km, after max 15 km water must be available for the dogs.

ZVP3 - Test of dog resistence 3º degree

For the participation is needed the title ZVP2, for pass the dog with handler must make the distance of 100km fulfilling the conditions demanded in the time limit of 10 hours.

Valutation
-Until the time 8 hours and 20 minuts is classificated as "Excelent".
-After the time of 8 hours and 20 minuts and until 9 hours and 10 minuts is classificated as "Very good".
-After the time of 9 hours and 10 minuts and until 10 hours is classificated as "good".

After 10 hours from the start of the last participant the judge declare ended the test.
The judge can stop the participant who cleary won't end the test in the estabilished limit.

The ZVP track must fulfill the following conditions:
1) minimal 2/3 of the distance must be on natural land ( grass, path in florest or between the fields ( of beat earth))
2) The start and the end must be on the same point and the legth must be the preset.

The track shape:
a) The circular distance must be long at least 20km
b) The right distance must be long at least 20 km

Check points:
They're preset, where the assistants note the achieved time in the passage of every participant in it's card.
The number of check points depends on the shape and condition of the track, they aways must be in the curve, in locals wich the participand can "cut" distance is needed put other check point, according to the need.
The maximum distance between the chack points can be 15 km, after max 15 km water must be available for the dogs.

ZZP1 - Civil protection working test 1º degree

Obedience (minimal 70 points, maximum 100 points)
a) Horizontal jump with 150cm (pit or obstacle) - one direction (max. 10 points)
b) Vertical jump with 80cm, wicker obstacle - both directions (max.10 points)
c) Climbed obstacle with 180cm - both directions ( Max.10 points)
d) Climbed hig beam and down - both directions (max.10 points)
e) Horizontal scale - one direction (max.10 points)
f) Climbing scaled high beam with down - both directions (max.10 points)
g) Mobile bridge on barrels - one direction (max.10 points)
h) Mobile beam (Swinging) - one direction (max.10 points)
i) crawl in tube with 3mt 50cm diameter - one direction (max.10 points)
j) Go ahead for 30 steps (on big box, etc) - one direction (max.10 points)

Apecial exercices: Are mate two times (maximum 200 points minimum 140)
a) Searching person under ruins (max.40 points)
b) Signalling place where buried person was find (max.40 points)
c) Coordination in pair, discipline during the liberation (max.10 points)
d) Hurry and want for the dog job (max. 10 points)

-The land 50X100 steps can be in a predisposted local.
-The buried person in a hiding place at the land level or under it.
-On the land will have 10 objecs with the human smel for be one distraction.
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Few questions about the working tests.
Only Czech and Slovak's judges can judge these working tests?
These working titles have something with the CzW breed? At test ZVP3 really isn't any dog breed who can do that, can be that lack informations for me but I never hear about other breed that no CZW with ZVP3, for GSD's have the AD (Ausdauerprüfung) which is resistence test, but is only 20km...
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