Beware American PUPPY MILL!

AMERICANI · 09-08-2011, 19:03

I have discovered a really bad place! I ask ANYONE who intends, or has been asked, to ship a puppy to the USA or requests Stud Service to notify me or Marcy prior to ANY transaction. This guy is a fraud! This guy counterfeits documents!, and this guy will breed dogs to death. I was defrauded by him, and aim to close his shop for good. Please translate this information onto other posts to all of the other countries.

Rona · 09-08-2011, 20:12

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Originally Posted by AMERICANI

I have discovered a really bad place! I ask ANYONE who intends, or has been asked, to ship a puppy to the USA or requests Stud Service to notify me or Marcy prior to ANY transaction. This guy is a fraud! This guy counterfeits documents!, and this guy will breed dogs to death. I was defrauded by him, and aim to close his shop for good. Please translate this information onto other posts to all of the other countries.

You don't mention what place and which guy!

Not very informative post, I'm afraid.

There are a lot of puppy mills all over the world, not only in the US

yukidomari · 09-08-2011, 20:15

Nevertheless, all breeders should inquire with local contacts before sending any dog, especially to a person they don't know well.

AMERICANI · 09-08-2011, 20:23

There is pending legal action, so I cannot give many details publicly; such as on an open forum.

yukidomari · 09-08-2011, 20:33

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Originally Posted by AMERICANI

There is pending legal action, so I cannot give many details publicly; such as on an open forum.

Glad you're taking action and hope you get your pup back soon. If there was an Asian-language forum I'd translate for you.

hanninadina · 09-08-2011, 21:22

Americani, nonsens. If you have an opnion you can write here who you mean. Rona is completely right. Why did you post it, if you do not want to tell us, who you mean?

No one will or would put you in jail, if you name the person here.

Christian

yukidomari · 09-08-2011, 21:41

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Originally Posted by hanninadina

Americani, nonsens. If you have an opnion you can write here who you mean. Rona is completely right. Why did you post it, if you do not want to tell us, who you mean?

No one will or would put you in jail, if you name the person here.

Christian

No, unfortunately he better not. In the US, doing this before court proceedings have occured could severely put you at a disadvantage at your legal hearing. Everything said here would not have been proven in a court of law and could be construed as libel, which would harm an active case. Any attorney here would advise the same.

I agree then, that this post isn't really helpful in terms of specifics but no matter, it still has a very good message about being careful, cross-checking, home-checking if possible, and reference checking.

GalomyOak · 09-08-2011, 22:54

On behalf of the Czechoslovakian Vlcak Club of America, I will be happy to share specific details of this person via PM or email. He is a known for MANY bad ownership and breeding practices (in addition to dishonesty) among several breeds. In order not to jeopardize the ongoing legal case, or the safety and life of this puppy, for now it is best not to share his information on a public forum the name of this person. Again, for all breeders intending to export or sell within the US a CSV puppy, we advise getting in touch with our club.

Cordially,
Marcy

Tazer · 10-08-2011, 12:55

I've got an idea of who it maybe, but out of respect to those with on going legal cases (if its who I think it is, there is more than one person/person's after him) I shall refrane from mentioning any details.

Wether I'm right in my suspitions or not, hope you get him closed down and your puppy is returned to you in good health.

Taz

AMERICANI · 12-08-2011, 01:15

In case there may be any confusion, when I refer to a "Puppy Mill", I am referring to a facility involving MANY dogs, puppies being sold earlier than eight weeks, being bred at there first heat, and every heat thereafter until they are dead. They are usually kept in horribly cramped cages in disgusting conditions. This kennel has already had an outbreak of Brucelliosis. There is no care or interest in any animal's well being, just money. I have, noticed lots of times, that the way Americans post don't always translate to other languages as they should, so I felt the need to clarify. Please spread the word, stricia la notizia, cronica carcotasilor !

09-08-2011, 19:03	#1
AMERICANI Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 111	Beware American PUPPY MILL! I have discovered a really bad place! I ask ANYONE who intends, or has been asked, to ship a puppy to the USA or requests Stud Service to notify me or Marcy prior to ANY transaction. This guy is a fraud! This guy counterfeits documents!, and this guy will breed dogs to death. I was defrauded by him, and aim to close his shop for good. Please translate this information onto other posts to all of the other countries.

09-08-2011, 20:23	#4
AMERICANI Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 111	Pending legal action There is pending legal action, so I cannot give many details publicly; such as on an open forum.

09-08-2011, 22:54	#8
GalomyOak Howling Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 436	On behalf of the Czechoslovakian Vlcak Club of America, I will be happy to share specific details of this person via PM or email. He is a known for MANY bad ownership and breeding practices (in addition to dishonesty) among several breeds. In order not to jeopardize the ongoing legal case, or the safety and life of this puppy, for now it is best not to share his information on a public forum the name of this person. Again, for all breeders intending to export or sell within the US a CSV puppy, we advise getting in touch with our club. Cordially, Marcy __________________ "What lies behind us and what lies ahead of us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us."~Henry David Thoreau http://www.galomyoak.com

10-08-2011, 12:55	#9
Tazer Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 77	I've got an idea of who it maybe, but out of respect to those with on going legal cases (if its who I think it is, there is more than one person/person's after him) I shall refrane from mentioning any details. Wether I'm right in my suspitions or not, hope you get him closed down and your puppy is returned to you in good health. Taz __________________ Never argue with idiots. they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.

12-08-2011, 01:15	#10
AMERICANI Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 111	Explanation In case there may be any confusion, when I refer to a "Puppy Mill", I am referring to a facility involving MANY dogs, puppies being sold earlier than eight weeks, being bred at there first heat, and every heat thereafter until they are dead. They are usually kept in horribly cramped cages in disgusting conditions. This kennel has already had an outbreak of Brucelliosis. There is no care or interest in any animal's well being, just money. I have, noticed lots of times, that the way Americans post don't always translate to other languages as they should, so I felt the need to clarify. Please spread the word, stricia la notizia, cronica carcotasilor !

09-08-2011, 20:15	#3
yukidomari Moderator Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Los Angeles CA Posts: 847	Nevertheless, all breeders should inquire with local contacts before sending any dog, especially to a person they don't know well.

09-08-2011, 21:22	#6
hanninadina Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,466	Americani, nonsens. If you have an opnion you can write here who you mean. Rona is completely right. Why did you post it, if you do not want to tell us, who you mean? No one will or would put you in jail, if you name the person here. Christian