DNA tests and Laboratories - Page 3

michaelundinaeichhorn · 29-06-2009, 14:38

Yes as far as I did understand it can. And It can tell if a for example C-dog is likely or not to give HD to its offspring. There are a lot of good dogs lost for breeding because of their result, if you could proof it´s not a genetic problem in this specific dog you could use it.

saschia · 29-06-2009, 16:25

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Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

There are a lot of good dogs lost for breeding because of their result, if you could proof it´s not a genetic problem in this specific dog you could use it.

This should be stressed as a great thing for this test - and also, that it will not tell you what is the state of your dog's hips, but how likely it is that his/her offspring will get HD, and also if you test the dog young, how much effort you should make preventing bad hips in your dog - if he is genetically succeptible, you can still prevent him getting severe arthritis in later age by correct food and supplements and training (like hydrotherapy) since the young pup (much sooner than you can get any valid X-rays), while if your dog is genetically healthy, you can save money and invest it in some other pleasures for your dog and actually don't need to anesthetize your dog and have it x-rayed, unless it shows some signs of illness...

Juniorwolf · 29-06-2009, 18:30

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Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn

Yes as far as I did understand it can. And It can tell if a for example C-dog is likely or not to give HD to its offspring. There are a lot of good dogs lost for breeding because of their result, if you could proof it´s not a genetic problem in this specific dog you could use it.

Thanks for your answer

Greetings Rolf

Mikael · 29-06-2009, 18:31

Thanks Ina, Mijke and Saschia for ALL answers

Just one more question... When the lab now asks for 24 dogs with official HD results, and clearly vets are saying that only a HD test on a large breed dog like the CsW is (100%) exact at the age of minimum 18 month for a female and 24 month for a male...

Is there not a good idea to send them as exact info as possible

= official HD tests after this ages ???

I mean, way send the lab bad or incorrect info to base there new DNA test on

And what would be the risk if they get incorrect results on this first 24 dogs ???

Best regards / Mikael

michaelundinaeichhorn · 29-06-2009, 20:09

The easiest thing would be to send the x-rays themselves or/and the detailed judgement. For German HD-results they only need the detailed judgement.
We can use German dogs as far as possible and continue with other dogs with x-rays and judgements. 24 dogs is not as difficult as 200.
Very many dogs are x-rayed with digital techniques now that makes copies very easy.

Juniorwolf · 29-06-2009, 21:09

...another problem with sending HD-results from different countries could be that not all countries/vets. will classify the same dog in same way(sometimes a dog can have HD A at one country/vet. and HD B at another country/vet.), in Denmark you will only get to know if the dog have HD A, B, C, etc... no detailed info and the xrays is not given free to any private person, only other vets. can apply for the xrays ! ...but maybe the lab. will be an exception ?

So maybe the lab. should only use HD results from dogs with detailed info. or xrays ?

Greetings Rolf

michaelundinaeichhorn · 29-06-2009, 21:21

It can only use those. But if they get a copy of the x-ray this would be enough.

29-06-2009, 18:31	#44
Mikael Scandinavian Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 1,089	Thanks Ina, Mijke and Saschia for ALL answers Just one more question... When the lab now asks for 24 dogs with official HD results, and clearly vets are saying that only a HD test on a large breed dog like the CsW is (100%) exact at the age of minimum 18 month for a female and 24 month for a male... Is there not a good idea to send them as exact info as possible = official HD tests after this ages ??? I mean, way send the lab bad or incorrect info to base there new DNA test on And what would be the risk if they get incorrect results on this first 24 dogs ??? Best regards / Mikael __________________ _________________________________________________ Hronec, Rasty, Zilja Kennel, Wolfdog of Sweden* http://kennelwolfdogofsweden.vpsite.se/Home.html http://www.facebook.com/pages/Wolfdo...53067971392916 Last edited by Mikael; 29-06-2009 at 20:58.

29-06-2009, 21:09	#46
Juniorwolf Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 575	...another problem with sending HD-results from different countries could be that not all countries/vets. will classify the same dog in same way(sometimes a dog can have HD A at one country/vet. and HD B at another country/vet.), in Denmark you will only get to know if the dog have HD A, B, C, etc... no detailed info and the xrays is not given free to any private person, only other vets. can apply for the xrays ! ...but maybe the lab. will be an exception ? So maybe the lab. should only use HD results from dogs with detailed info. or xrays ? Greetings Rolf Last edited by Juniorwolf; 29-06-2009 at 21:13.

29-06-2009, 14:38	#41
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	Yes as far as I did understand it can. And It can tell if a for example C-dog is likely or not to give HD to its offspring. There are a lot of good dogs lost for breeding because of their result, if you could proof it´s not a genetic problem in this specific dog you could use it.

29-06-2009, 20:09	#45
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	The easiest thing would be to send the x-rays themselves or/and the detailed judgement. For German HD-results they only need the detailed judgement. We can use German dogs as far as possible and continue with other dogs with x-rays and judgements. 24 dogs is not as difficult as 200. Very many dogs are x-rayed with digital techniques now that makes copies very easy.

29-06-2009, 21:21	#47
michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	It can only use those. But if they get a copy of the x-ray this would be enough.