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15-06-2011, 14:13 | #1 |
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Wolfdogs with fake FCI pedigrees in Italy
This is not true, the Italian Club's intention is to take serious actions together with ENCI to control possible "fake pedigrees". Who are you to tell the contrary of what is happening?
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15-06-2011, 16:10 | #2 |
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uuuups...sorry Lupis you wrote almost three years ago!
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16-06-2011, 12:39 | #3 |
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Good to know. As you for sure know one of the hybrids with false pedigree is already imported to Italy. Do you plan to do something with it?
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16-06-2011, 16:31 | #4 |
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Two members of the technical Board of italian club breed with Mutaras, one of them even with fake pedigree!
You may expect a huge help from Italian club !
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16-06-2011, 17:23 | #5 | |
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FCI working against mixbreeding Lolll... " $$$$$£££££... Zzzzzz.... " Best regards / Mikael
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16-06-2011, 22:17 | #6 | |
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Even puppy mills are allowed to register dogs in the AKC and join breed clubs (COUGHCOUGHHUNTECOUGHCOUGH).
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16-06-2011, 22:31 | #7 | |
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But very very hard to spell Maybe we can ask FCI to have a breed called " Pure Mix Breed Dog " Best regards / Mikael
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17-06-2011, 10:10 | #8 |
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... laughing behind a computer and not doing anything concrete is unfortunately the typical Italian way of solving problems... but I don't believe it's the most efficient
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17-06-2011, 10:21 | #9 |
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The italian club has no power on pedigree, but can have power on his members; if you can, join with member of council that think like you (there are? I think one or two but...) and take action at first against the members of breeding committee that breed with Mutaras with faked pedigree.
After that the club may have the legitimacy to ask something to their members or to ENCI.
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17-06-2011, 11:08 | #10 | |
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What I know is that they have normal LIR (RSR), and not fake pedigrees...but you were in the Club when this Mutara thing happened, not me...we already had this discussion in Italian forum and I don't believe it's of any use repeating it here I can only answer for myself and for what I know NOW is happening in the Italian Club. Not more than that. The Club IS activating for this problem. This is a matter of fact and is written in the boards of directors meetings minutes. This is what I said. Simple. You believe that the Club MUST take actions according to a certain sequence of steps you decided? Ok, that's your point of view. But this doesn't mean that the Club is not doing what I said and hereby confirm. Fact. Not opinions. |
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17-06-2011, 10:08 | #11 | |
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What I want to say is that we need rules contrasting every "fake pedigree" matter The problem is: how to prove that/if these pedigrees are fake,and what to to in case there is evidence they are. I believe it firstly have to be checked which remedies are allowed to verify these "not clear" matters. As you probably already know, in Italy ENCI decides everything and the Club has not any power on pedigrees. Nevertheless, the club can propose ENCI to try to take some remedies First of all, it has to be checked if any "control" and "measure" can be carried out: (1) from a practical point of view (for instance: DNA test, how does it work? which entity is able to do it? can it reveal what we are looking for?), and (2) from a legal point of view (people cannot be obliged to do this DNA test, but one thing that may be done by ENCI againts these "fake foreign pedigrees) may be to "block" the release of export pedigrees in Italy until this test is done) This is the first and more important step to do, and the Club is keeping information on the above points Last edited by Martab; 17-06-2011 at 10:12. |
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