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Old 30-03-2012, 23:41   #61
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Dear Nebulosa,

The people who know me know that my life is dedicated for the dogs. I understand that the mixes will have to go. But you cannot accuse anyone without evidence. Admin wrote "breeders of CZW-mixes". If you want to know the Neckartal Kennel's full name:

Von Neckartal 1977 - FCI reg.

But it's possible that you wasn't even born yet. Do you dare to give out the Admin's name? Because you know. If not, it will come to light sooner or later.
Yes, I already told her name in Czech forum, but as I wrote there, it will be of no help.
You're all trying to find some breeder or owner to blame for find a stupid excuse like "this owner/breeder is doing it for personal attack/for promote his own kennel/his friends kennel or so", while the Admin is simply not related with breeding world.
That kind of immaturity put Pavel and Margo to run away from wolfdog administration.
Now we have a non-related-with-breeding Admin and it's users' fault YOU ALL ASKED FOR THIS.

Her complete name is Lucinda Ferreira.
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Old 31-03-2012, 08:55   #62
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hello!my name is Rodica Fock and my kennel name is KONIGS-TERRY.Why is my kennel not in the romanian breeder list?She was recognized FCI,my dogs have HD in Hungary by recognized vet.,I send all the adress from the puppys what is the problem???
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Old 01-04-2012, 13:45   #63
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Hello,

I did not read all the messages but I have announced my litter about 1,5 month ago.

It was published and at once it was diasappeared. I have asked in a private message to the admin what the reason was and after about 2 weeks the answer came.

It was to clearefy the Louba-Tar dogs because the grandmother of this litter is a Louba-Tar dog and is now 12 years old. And till it is not clear, they will not announce this litter.

I have asked the put my litter back twice but till now nothing and also no responce of the admin.

On my question what they have to clear, I also got no answer back.

All the dogs have done DNA test, DM, Dwarfisme and HD test, so what is the problem.

I think, I will never get the answer,

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Old 01-04-2012, 17:58   #64
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Dear Admin,
I´m also interested in the meanings of -!- and -?-

My Dog Catori Liza Whispering Wolf is marked as -?-...
..her father Azrael Crying wolf is no more for breeding...without any proof...
Mona Krotkovskeho Dvora is -!-...also...
My friends male "Kosak Zlatá Palz" is no more for breeding and -?- as well...
even Blue is born before all the mixes appeared and you can see big differences between "B" and "C" litter de la Louve Blanche.

I´m sure that the dogs are pure...
...and like all the other I want to know the plan of the admin. What should we do? What are the reasons? Are there some more proofs? I understand the problem with "S" and "T" litter Crying Wolf...but what about all the older litters- to my mind there is no reason to mark them as suspicious.

I´m really looking forward to an explanation.
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Old 01-04-2012, 19:00   #65
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Actually, I really understand you and agree on some things. But this is the fact - it shouldn't have to be Wolfdog.org and breeders who use Wolfdog.org to investigate anything. It is each country's Kennel Club which has the responsibility to do that, but it doesn't seem that is forthcoming.

What else can be done except to write and share on one's personal site, therefore, the suspicions they have? Otherwise, it could be that suspicious (yes, suspicious!) dogs be used over and over and spread wider in the gene pool then it already is...

It's not the best way because the best way would be that the Kennel Club of each country in which suspicious dogs reside would take action to clarify it themselves...... I wish it too. I believe such complaints have already been lodged with the KC's to no avail...
I know our points of view do not differ that much.

And like I said, I believe the correct way is to have the official breeding organizations to develop a vision and strategy for the future of the breed, define rules and regulations, live thise rules and promote them. Get breeders to sign and test, support them in bringing them on board, but not exclude them or mark them as suspicious. It will work against the breed at the end of the day.

It's a long and difficult process, but with passion and a vision, it will prove to be the right way, I absolutely believe so.
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Old 01-04-2012, 20:15   #66
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Her complete name is Lucinda Ferreira.
What is her phone number? Complete.
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Old 01-04-2012, 21:07   #67
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What is her phone number? Complete.
Ask her personaly and she will give it to you if she wish so.
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Old 13-04-2012, 01:25   #68
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According to the data base there is 893 dogs tag (_?_) and 1726 tag (_!_) so that’s made 2619 suspicious dogs …
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:24   #69
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I was wondering how it is possible for a dog to have this symbol (_!_) against its name when the parents do not. Also how is it possible for 1 of the litter to have it when litter mates do not? as an example, I was looking at........
Moňa z Krotkovského dvora CS (_!_), her parents are not (_!_)

Fallko Kollárov dvor (_!_) , his parents are not (_!_)

Looking at the parents of the above dogs offspring there are the only 1 in litter to have this mark against their name, how is this possible when all in litter have the same parents.

Thank you in advance for any helpful reply.
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:39   #70
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Just purely conjecture, but I think perhaps the "!" means that the dog or bitch may be listed on the pedigree officially as the parents of some puppies but there are some reasons to believe it may not be so (like some strange puppies in some litters, or the kennel is known for having bred mixes with fake pedigrees, or so)?
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Old 10-07-2012, 17:27   #71
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I have not read everything, but the first page was enough to doubt about WD.

My dog is also marked with a _! _, Dwarf result is gone and DM now is Unofficial (after I have send the official result more than 1 time)

His grandmother is a Louba tar and that makes my dog then automatically a bastard........THANKS

What if all owners of dogs who are listed here in the database ask for removal there dogs because of privacy reasons?

I don't think this database then still long will exist.

I am glad that the start is made in Germany for a new database.

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Old 10-07-2012, 22:12   #72
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Sorry, that is not right ...
We make only a database for males/females with breeding license!
The reason for it: all places you can look for stud dogs are not up to date.
We don´t want to compete with WD


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Old 13-07-2012, 01:17   #73
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Thanks for explanation Tanja! And I am very glad with all the affords for this update

But it is a pity that there is still no explanation of the admin of wolfdog about (_!_) and (-?-)….
I know some owners in the meantime did even let make a DNA profile, or did even make the test for the B-locus (inheritance brown colour) to prove their dog was not a (red) SWH mix (and did send the results to the admin) …
But nothing did change about their dog(s) in the database….

And also for me as a moderator there are “amazing” things to find in the data base…
For example a first litter has no marks, but the second litter of the same combination has marks like (_!_) or (-?-)….

As one of the moderators of wolfdog I know it is really huge work for the admin (as one of the volunteers) to update everything. And I don’t want to blame anybody!

But sometimes I (and probably other moderators) really don’t know any more what to answer on all questions of owners I receive, because I (we) also don’t know !
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