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Old 28-11-2007, 23:17   #61
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Hmm I have been doing some thinking and have had a thought.. ( which one typically gets after thinking :P) that before I Import a CSW I would like to see and meet some of these lovely dogs to know for absolute sure they are the ones for me. Don't get me wrong all your pictures are the beautiful and all but I just don't think it would be very wise to purchase a dog, fly it all the way out here to aussie and have an unhappy experience. Any thoughts about this or ideas as to how I can go about Meeting some of your lovely dogs? I don't mind travelling ( Hmm meeting wolfdogs and travelling the world. Sounds like a great holiday ).
This is very good idea and it can be only recommended. I suppose nobody here expected, that you´d be willing to travel from Australia over to Europe to meet the dogs, while some future owners are lazy to cross their own country for the puppy But please, if you can do it, do visit and see the dogs.

Because, you need to know not only how they should look like.
You need to know, how they behave and how they act, before you decide to get one. You need to have honest informations, to make the decision if these dogs are the right ones for you.

For example, on the forum here you mostly can read only nice things - how the dogs are sweet, lovely and beautifull. And of course all the breeders here on the forum are great and their puppies the best.

But the reality is different. The wolfdogs are not only beautifull, they are also very smart, which makes them difficult to train. The puppies are wild and will destroy half of your house and garden, and will do that every day, before you manage to teach your puppy to stay alone. This destructive behaviour can last months, sometimes even longer. That is very costly and not funny and cute at all. The adult male wolfdogs are territorial and they will fight any other male dog, if they have a chance. Female wolfdogs are the same, with few exceptions, towards other females and sometimes even males. All wolfdogs have strong hunting instinct and will try to hunt, till they are so old that they cannot walk. You can (and should) teach them not to, but my opinion is you can never really 100% get it out of them.
Then there is the big issue of the proper socialisation - if you miss it, your dog will always be shy, scared of every noise, scared of his own shadow. But, to socialise the puppy properly, enormous amount of time, patience and effort is needed. Do you have it?

And last but not least, as with all dog breeders, also not all breeders of Czechoslovakian wolfdogs are honest and reliable, no matter what they might make themselves look like here. If you do not do a good research, do not ask around, if you get a puppy from a wrong kennel, you can pay a lot of money and receive sick, weak puppy full of worms and fleas, with diarrhoea and who knows what else.

Do you still want a Czechoslovakian wolfdog? Then truly, the best way is to come over to one of the summer camps, to see more of these dogs at one place, to speak with more owners (and more breeders) and to make your own, clear picture about the breed. And then decide.

Good luck!
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Old 29-11-2007, 03:41   #62
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I couldn't agree more Mirkawolf. Which is why I have decided that instead of saving up for the Importantion costs and why not I would spend it on a holiday . I was also wondering if anyone could give me some further details on where and when the summer camps are on etc. ( Yes I know they are in summer :P) I am very serious about coming over and getting a practical knowledge about this breed and by that I mean learning things and seeing things that aren't in breed books.Many thanks for the help so far.. I hope there is more to come Can't wait to read more -Pariah
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Old 29-11-2007, 03:44   #63
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wow, My typing skills are quite terrible
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Old 29-11-2007, 10:17   #64
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Hi Pariah,

if you click on "forum" you´ll find a lot of informations - for example:
http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6019

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Old 29-11-2007, 12:58   #65
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Hi Pariah and Mirkawlf,Pariah take it serious what Mirkawolf did write here. I would be very happy if every csw owner would be so honest in talking about behaviour and raising up a csw! In germany it is a pity but lots of csw will be given away mostly between 4 month and 2 years, because people did not inform will before. But even when they are older, I just have been informed about a 4 year female.The summercamps are really great experience. And of course for westeuropaens and I guess even for you from australia they are very cheap, for example for your plans, 2 weeks about 150,--Euros with all food and living included. You only have to come there. Maybe you can make contact in advance and fly to a owner or breeder and they take you with them to a camp. You have a bit time. Then you will see how dogs are at home in their own environment and how they are out on streets and how they are betwen other csw.Christian
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Old 30-11-2007, 06:22   #66
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Some of the reason why I think it would be best if I came over and saw some CSW's how they are and what they are like is because I came to the conclusion of if for some reason I failed myself and the dog, (through in proper socialisation or not enough training/bad training) and I had a big problem on my hands I just couldn't hand the dog into some shelter and live myself. Having said that I wouldn't have many people in australia with the knowledge to help with whatever the problem is. However much I might think of myself as a fairly knowledgable person on dogs, there will be things that I will not know about with this type of dog or any dog for that matter (learning is a lifelong commitment), And as Mirkawolf said there are things that only seeing and talking to people will teach me. I would definatly like to come along to the summer camps, although I'm not sure if I would be welcomed as I have no CSW to call my friend and I sort of would not like to be a bother to people when they sound quite busy. Even if I can't go to the summer camp I would like still to come over to see and meet owners and breeders. Many thanks for your replies hope to hear/see more soon-Pariah
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Old 30-11-2007, 08:17   #67
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You sure would be welcome, it is no problem to join them just to get to know the dogs. We had several people in the last German summer camp that just wanted to meet wolfdogs and their owners. The Czech camps are more training camps with getting together, the Slovakian an German camps are with a bit of training and a lot of just getting together, Margo will be best to tell you about the Polish camps, she and her brother are organizing it. There are always English speaking people in the camps.
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Old 30-11-2007, 22:21   #68
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And as Mirkawolf said there are things that only seeing and talking to people will teach me. I would definatly like to come along to the summer camps, although I'm not sure if I would be welcomed as I have no CSW to call my friend and I sort of would not like to be a bother to people when they sound quite busy. Even if I can't go to the summer camp I would like still to come over to see and meet owners and breeders. Many thanks for your replies hope to hear/see more soon-Pariah
Of course you´d be welcomed at the summer camp, even if you do not have a wolfdog. Responsible future owners are always welcomed!
The summer camps are excellent opportunity to see many dogs, owners and breeders at once place. And you can see the dogs both working and playing, interacting in every day life at the camp.
Many people bring to the camp their whole family, and some people also bring other dog breeds, not only wolfdogs.
So do not worry, it is not a problem.

I agree with Ina, that perhaps excellent idea is to come over to visit some owner/breeder and then travel with them to one of the summer camps. I am not yet sure, if I will go this summer, otherwise I´d say you can visit us and we´ll take you. But it´s still a lot of time to go to summer, and the camps usually happen from July to August.
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Old 04-12-2007, 03:08   #69
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Thank you for the offer Mirkawolf although I don't know if i'll be rich enough to come over this summer, I'll try and save all my christmas and paychecks from now on. Thanks -Pariah
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