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Old 08-09-2004, 02:55   #1
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Default Bonitazione in polonia - Pozna 2004

Volevo fare pubblicamente i complimenti a Margo e Przemek per l'impressionante organizzazione per il raduno che hanno fatto in Polonia.

Da quelle parti ci sono la bellezza di 6 allevamenti (ehm, solo 6!) e Margo e fratellino hanno organizzato un raduno con bonitazione finale con la bellezza di 24 cani bonitati.
Dai dati su wolfdog (speriamo che almeno quelli siano attendibili) negli ultimi 4 anni soltanto altre 5 bonitazioni hanno avuto un numero maggiore di Cani (su un totale di 50 bonitazioni circa), un vero successo.
Se poi aggiungiamo gli ottimi risultati di:
 - Alistair Wolf z Peronówki molto promettente
 - Amber Wolf z Peronówki A68 Og R1 P1
 - Andariel Wolf z Peronówki A61 Oc R1 P1
 - Balrog z Peronówki molto promettente
 - Banshee z Peronówki molto promettente

penso proprio che Margo abbia motivo di essere soddisfatta.
Il povero Anubis P14 per denti in meno (capito?) e per il carattere.
- Anubis Wolf z Peronówki A64 C12 Oa R3 P14

Ancora complimenti a Margo, Przemek ed Ela (margo, dillo tu ad Ela da parte mia!).
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Old 08-09-2004, 12:27   #2
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C'era qualcosa da capire a proposito del dente in meno? Anubis era già P14 per l'altezza.
Anubis get disqualification because of two things:

- missing teeth - if a teeth is missing you have to make the x-rays. Even if the judge can feel the theeth in the jaw the dog will get P14 if the teeth is not visible. If the owner will make the x-rays and show them to the breeding committee they will change the code and if there are no other faults they will change it from P14 to P1.

- character - there were problems which are "typical" for "West European countries (I you want to hear more you can read the dusscussion on English version which we have since longer time: bonitation in Belgium) and the result are "Oa" and also it was simply not possible to measure Anubis right (A64, index of height 100). Even Sona said he has the right height but it is not goal of the judge to try to measure the dog but the owner have to train that the dog let him measure... If the judge is not able to get right values because the dog is cringed it is the problem only for the owner if the dog get disqualification because of: wrong height, wrong index of format or wrong index of height. And the same is with the character test. It is simply so.... That's the bonitation...
The judge said to the owner of Anubis what he have to do to change this code so there is clear situation because there is nothing what can't be made better and there none of the faults is constant or unchangable....
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Old 08-09-2004, 12:46   #3
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Ok, but why we can see bonitation results with C12 without P14?
For sure it was decision of the breeding committee: if the owner made the x-rays and the teeth is there (on the x-ray picture) some judges write C12 but don't pay any attention to it while counting the Px. Other judges write it not into the bonitation code but to the "comments" ("Nota:") on the bonitation card and also don't take into consideration that the tooth is not visible.
So there are two ways to act if the teeth is missing. One thing is always the same: if one teeth is missing for 100% (it is not visible on the x-rays) it means always P14.

...but we talk now only about bonitation. According the breed standard even two P1 can be missing and the dog is still "excelent" (for example on the dog shows). For more info see "DIFETTI :" in the Standard F.C.I.
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Old 08-09-2004, 14:39   #4
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Per i NON anglofoni, cerco di riassumenre quanto scrive Margo, molto interessante e chiarificatorio credo.
Ci si chiedeva come mai esistono bonitazioni con C12 (dente in meno o in più) ma non con P14.
Alcuni giudici di bonitazione scrivono C12, i proprietari gli fanno vedere le lastre allora il calcolo del P lo fanno senza tenere in conto il C12 inizialmente scritto.
Altri non lo scrivono nel codice ma soltanto tra le note, e non ne tengono conto nel P finale.
Comunque sia, se manca il dente, e questo è certo dalla nascita, il risultato finale è P14.
Per quanto riguarda lo standard però, anche due denti P1 possono mancare ed il cane rimane eccellente.

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