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Hanka 09-11-2011 09:02

Every owner of male can have "own" price of using of male. It can be 200 or 2000Euro and nobody MUST explain to somebody WHY he has this price. Is it high for you? It is easy: don´t use this male. If owner of male will see, nobody wants pay so much money, he will must change his price. Or- male will not have pups.
But I think, nobody here will explain WHY he wants this or this price.

Gaga 09-11-2011 10:37

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Originally Posted by *Satu (Bericht 411972)
Twice :) in one heat and one way is ower 1200km.... i don´t live in Helsinki ;)
also male dosen´t live there where i stayed.

Why you don't use the insemination? many breeders (other breeds) use it for their comfort and minimize the risk of infection their female (and male too). We live in XXI century :)

Morian 09-11-2011 13:41

hanka, nobody talks about your trade secrets, don't worry :lol:
monita was curious, what is wrong?

Hanka 09-11-2011 13:47

Nothing is bad on her questions. But you attacked some owner of male and you wait some explaining from his...His male has "in owner´s eyes" some value. Why not? Why you critise him? He will not explain you, why he wants XY money. Yes, price really depends on his phantasy.

Morian 09-11-2011 13:49

i attacked? whom?
seems full moon is coming again :lol::lol::lol::lol:

monita 09-11-2011 17:54

@hanka:
Hanka, I would like to know that if the male dog owners dare to say how much they do matings for. As you could read here, I'm just curious. My interests are that for example, a male living in Slovakia for a Slovakian will do matings for €400, but for me, a Hungarian, for €1000. What's the difference between us? I go to Slovakia for bonitation, to greater dog shows, unlike some other people, who don't dare. The male in my possession will do matings both for Hungarians and you, for example, for €200.
And how much you do matings for? - I'm just curious.
Nothing is too expensive for me if I see it's meaning. But I don't like discrimination.

Morian 09-11-2011 17:57

and maybe hanka which blamed me will quote my attack and name "him"? ;) or it will still look stupid

CDaniela 09-11-2011 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaga (Bericht 411999)
Why you don't use the insemination? many breeders (other breeds) use it for their comfort and minimize the risk of infection their female (and male too). We live in XXI century :)

I think that insemination isn´t ideal way.
Once I used this method, but no puppies were born. Estimated 100% female ovulation is the biggest problem.
Do you know some litter of csv, which originated from artificial insemination?

hekate 09-11-2011 21:42

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Originally Posted by CDaniela (Bericht 412131)
Do you know some litter of csv, which originated from artificial insemination?


The litter of my dog Uruk Hai comes from an artificial insemination because his father Erik Nanook life in Canada.

michaelundinaeichhorn 09-11-2011 22:51

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Originally Posted by hekate (Bericht 412136)
The litter of my dog Uruk Hai comes from an artificial insemination because his father Erik Nanook life in Canada.


No, Selma was mated in Vienna.
During the winter Erik Nanook lives in Austria.

Michael

*Satu 09-11-2011 23:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaga (Bericht 411999)
Why you don't use the insemination? many breeders (other breeds) use it for their comfort and minimize the risk of infection their female (and male too). We live in XXI century :)

Because i want to do it in natural way, my choice ;)

hekate 10-11-2011 00:01

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Originally Posted by michaelundinaeichhorn (Bericht 412149)
No, Selma was mated in Vienna.
During the winter Erik Nanook lives in Austria.

Michael

Ok sorry, so no I do not know litter from an artificial insemination.

Gaga 10-11-2011 00:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDaniela (Bericht 412131)
I think that insemination isn´t ideal way.
Once I used this method, but no puppies were born. Estimated 100% female ovulation is the biggest problem.
Do you know some litter of csv, which originated from artificial insemination?

I know many dogs from other breeds, no csv. Some dogs are not in good condition (the health) so some breeders prefer insemination. Of course-it's personal choice. I asked because I understand the problem of a long way and money. And..some females don't want to be mated far from home, they are in big stress.

*Satu 10-11-2011 00:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaga (Bericht 412155)
I know many dogs from other breeds, no csv. Some dogs are not in good condition (the health) so some breeders prefer insemination. Of course-it's personal choice. I asked because I understand the problem of a long way and money. And..some females don't want to be mated far from home, they are in big stress.

I don´t use females for breeding who have so big stress.

i know very many breeds who can´t mate in nature because every breeder use only insemination.

Nebulosa 10-11-2011 02:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDaniela (Bericht 412131)
I think that insemination isn´t ideal way.
Once I used this method, but no puppies were born. Estimated 100% female ovulation is the biggest problem.
Do you know some litter of csv, which originated from artificial insemination?

Yes, so far I know the A litter of the kennel La Llamada del Lobo in Spain, came from one IA, if not deceive me with cooled semen.

michaelundinaeichhorn 10-11-2011 08:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by *Satu (Bericht 412156)
I don´t use females for breeding who have so big stress.

i know very many breeds who can´t mate in nature because every breeder use only insemination.

I totally agree with that. There are many breeds with problems in natural mating. They normally use AI with those dogs. The results are more dogs with a massive lack in normal behavioural patterns.

Ina

CDaniela 10-11-2011 09:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by *Satu (Bericht 412156)
I don´t use females for breeding who have so big stress.

i know very many breeds who can´t mate in nature because every breeder use only insemination.

Yes, It is true.
Insemination can be for female greater stress than the long journey.

Gaga 10-11-2011 09:31

But maybe, sometimes the IA it's a better choice than taking the worse male only because he lives near us:) I don't want to say that everyone should use the IA, it's only a possibility...;)

*Satu 10-11-2011 14:44

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Originally Posted by Gaga (Bericht 412173)
But maybe, sometimes the IA it's a better choice than taking the worse male only because he lives near us:) I don't want to say that everyone should use the IA, it's only a possibility...;)

Also in natural way, I can see male what i use, in live then i can be sure that male character is ok.
I didn´t cry that my mating trip was to long.

Male was great and i will see after 2 week my next litter.
I don´t make my choice of male or how long way i have.

Other detale was comming first.

Male doesn´t have to many litter´s. Type is ok. Healty results.
and every kennel doesn´t have same combination. Matador breeding doesn´t help at all.

Gaga 10-11-2011 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by *Satu (Bericht 412237)
Also in natural way, I can see male what i use, in live then i can be sure that male character is ok.
I didn´t cry that my mating trip was to long.

Male was great and i will see after 2 week my next litter.
I don´t make my choice of male or how long way i have.

Other detale was comming first.

Male doesn´t have to many litter´s. Type is ok. Healty results.
and every kennel doesn´t have same combination. Matador breeding doesn´t help at all.

Sorry Satu- I didn't write it against you. Not at all :) It was only another point of view in discussion:)


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