Crying Wolf: litter of sterilized female?
 

Hello, Jasmine, if you could explain me, I do not include/understand all :confused2

how made you to have pups with a female sterilized ???

I am not very good in English, but it seems me to make a correct translation :?

http://www.cryingwolf.hu/ : 01/11/2010 : 4 pups of Hannah and Whisper

Now, that is what I call a good question ;) :lol:

Best regards / Mikael

I have new question - i meet person who told me he reserve puppy od arys from litter this year. What you say for breed with almost 11 year old female. Another lie about good condition? You write empty slogans about loving your dogs. You have no idea what is love for dogs. When you will give peace to this female - when she can finally rest? Or she must die to get rid of you?

lupis
I read the forum and looking for your questions (for Edit). I think that your hatred is huge - great.

In Italia people say you are good breeder but i not agree now. No good breeder say is no problem if breeder use very much old bitch for breeding. or ill dogs.
you say is normal if breeder lie that female is castrated but later write of page she have puppies of this bitch. it is fake litter - who is mother? because castrated bitch can not have puppies.
it is no problem for you? when breder cheat and write lies?

I see you cooperate with jasmine - bad for you to protect some handling of breeders. no responsible breeder will protect liars.

You don´t know me ... I don´t know you ... And what do you think of me? ... That's your problem.
I do not like gossip.

gossip? jasmine write female is castrated. Now jasmine write female has puppies for sale. is not gossip but fact.

if you say it is ok is your problem. I not know you but your words is not of responsible breeder because normal breeder do not protect lie.

Do You judge people by their words to wolfdog? :shock:

hello,

I thought of having an answer, and finally the range disappeared :? ........

You made me curious, Lupis. Please can you tell us when was the date of originally post from Edit, that Hannah Eden Sveru is neutered (castrated)? And when was the advertisement, that Hannah got 4 pups?

Thanks.

Christian

It´s not Lupis that is asking it is Martiou07 on post #1

Original post you can find there... Click on the arrow and you can read Edits post on the topic "Kaya´s pups" = Post nr #47 the last two lines...

On Post no 1 on this topic you can find this link and date >>> http://www.cryingwolf.hu/ : 01/11/2010 : 4 pups of Hannah and Whisper.

Very best regards / Mikael

Thanks Mikael. 23.02.2010 is the answer when Edit wrote this. Maybe someone should send Edit a link to this post here? But if I understood right, she removed the litter advertisement for the pups born from Hannah at the 01.11.2010.

So, yes, Edit, I would like to know too what happened there?

As I always write here, there are some more breeders dealing with wolves in the breed! You can do that, but tell the people who you sell this highly wolfdogs, what they will get, so that they know what will and can happen. It is not enough to tell the people "you will get problems"!;)

I write this because after having Myla Cryin Wolf and comparing her to my american wolfdogs, to Tala and to Finnish F 2 45 % wolfdogs I know and of course hundreds of other csws, today I would say, she is a F 2 wolfdog mid to high content wolfdog! But I do not know and I do not care. I learned so much through her, so that I am thankful.

Christian

hello,

I don't understand :lol:

hanninadina , you are curious, me too :rock_3

http://storage.canalblog.com/15/96/537107/59234700.jpg

Than you are drawing the same conclution as some others that has Cs Vlcaks from her...

That is NOT good I think :(

Very best regards / Mikael

PS, Edit has a link to (this topic), DS.

this is very harsh mail, and i see that people do agree with you and of coarse i am totalt against breeding abuse of any dog but especialy the csw as they are my love, i mentioned in mail about the breeding abuse of AMBRA VLEINADIJE of an Italain kennel and some people who write on this thread more or less told me to mind my own biusness, i ended up getting banned from wolfdog.org. so just to re cap.. Ambra was born 20th dec 1998, she had her first litter on 23 dec 1999, so she was 1 yr 3 days old,,,2nd litter was 27th nov 2000 then 4th oct 2001, 25th april 2003, 26th aug 04, 18th apr 05, 4th jun 06, 28th jan 07, 15th nov 07, and finally produced 1 pup from last mating 10th may 09 in her 11th year, so in total 10 litters in 11 years and in some cases 2 litters in same year,this is total barbaric and complete abuse of an animal, so do any of you now 1 year later from i first pointed this out agree or am i going to get told to mind my own biusness again, i did report this to animal rights and sent letter to FCI, now i am doing article for magazine on abusive breeding in dogs, this bitch will be mentioned as will others in europe and uk. it would please me if mikael did not put any comments up on this as he ignored it last time and just likes to get his mail up every thread but wants only to comment and take no action..

ahhh I'm so jelous my dear friend, that you have no better things to do just deal with me!
And I will make a statistic...that it always happens when some other breeders couldn't sale theire pups....

Hannah Eden Severu is not castrated....some others dog which are retaired yes, she was not...just was put retaired as she has no pups in the last years. She was examined and the specialist sad she is abortive. She is together with Whisper for ages....but this year she became pregnant. Both parrents are available for DNS test...so guys, if you have any doubt, just come !!!!!

Arys: I'm just wondering who sad that she will have more litters???? As I'm not planning more litters from her....and of course nobody reserved any pup from her...but from Erys yes...EEEEEEErys..not from AAAArys...this is two different dogs!!!!
And Arys was shown in Nitra.....so ask about her condition those who saw her .

Paul, no worth to answer this nice team....when I do something it is wrong...when others do...it is no problem......as I see there are some other kennels with 3-4 litters, from 8-9 years old females.....
so that's about the objectivity.............


Have a nice day


Edit

just to Mikael: the litter was removed from my site, because all the 4 pups are already reserved.
And I have to tell the truth...I'm realy happy because of this litter...as Hannah is a very nice female with a very good bloodline...and as I'm a breeder I bought her for breeding...but as you see she is still with us though she had just 2 pups till now....

Edit, you are star, you have pregnant castrated females! :lol::lol::lol:

hello Jasmine,

thanks for your answers, but normally , you say, Hannah is sterilized ... :roll:

is nevertheless odd of your share to contradict you... :roll:

For Myla, Hanninadina, :lol: , there is the brother in France , Merlin, I don't like this dog, but ,not doubt, is a CSW.

as I wrote..it was my mistake...I wanted to write....some are castrated (retaired dogs.....)
But no problem, if somebody would have any doubt are welcome for a DNS test !

And as I wrote I'm realy jelous...I would be happy if I would have so much freetime to see other breeders websites and search back other breeders comments...
And I'm so jelous that you have no biggest problem just dealing with me.
You all three (Mikael. Martiou and Lupis) are so lucky!!!!


Edit

Edith, I want to believe you well, nevertheless recognize there was what this to put questions…. You know, I look at your site, yes, like much others , sorry I like the CSW :lol:, I am not in favour of your various marriages, nevertheless, the marriages which you currently made with Arys I find them interesting, like Arys and Hitt…all that to say to you that I do not seek either with always carrying discredit upon your breeding.

finally, as I said to you, thank you to have taken time to answer me…

I'm sorry Edith but you can call me "envy" and "jealous" but I also heard that you planned to breed Arys this year. I get this information from a is Spanish breeder who knows exactly the difference between ARYS and ERYS. ;) Especialy that I asked twice if it is right and you plan to breed her again...

PS. I saw Arys in Bratislava and ... she was looking very old. Much older than other females of the same age which were shown there.

i mentioned in mail about the breeding abuse of AMBRA VLEINADIJE of an Italain kennel and some people who write on this thread more or less told me to mind my own biusness, so now while you are on line Margo why no replies to this information its on this web site for all to see, not one comment from all you good people for this is abusive breeding of an animal and a csw your breed, so just to re cap.. Ambra was born 20th dec 1998, she had her first litter on 23 dec 1999, so she was 1 yr 3 days old,,,2nd litter was 27th nov 2000 then 4th oct 2001, 25th april 2003, 26th aug 04, 18th apr 05, 4th jun 06, 28th jan 07, 15th nov 07, and finally produced 1 pup from last mating 10th may 09 in her 11th year, so in total 10 litters in 11 years and in some cases 2 litters in same year,this is total barbaric and complete abuse of an animal, this thread is about breeding so this mail is not out of order and it deserves a reply from all csw lovers or is it again to be ignored by all, or has the owner of this bitch got something on you all and you are all afraid to voice your oppinion on it, if this where mentioned on any other dog forum the people would be up in arms over such ridiculous and bloody minded breeding practice,

Margo,

Maybe you and Lupis know more than me.....
so now I have an italian and also a spanish client for the next Arys litter.........(???? )
Believe me , she is in good condition....but won't be more litter from her !
and I don't remeber that you was in Nitra last Friday...and she was the only one veteran female...... so it is a little bit strange what you wrote here.............

Edit

Edit, I just received a screen shot from another person from this forum who was also informed by YOU that you planned a litter with Arys this year. Few minuts ago I get information that the puppy is already born:

http://www.wolfdog.org/grafiki/quick.jpg

The name of the puppy is Quick Crying Wolf (born September 2010) and everybody can see that YOU write openly that it is a puppy of ARYS.

For 100% it is not a puppy of ERYS (and Gisu) because this litter names start with "R".

You can be angry with me - but look: there are more people who say the same. On facebook YOU!!! put photos of the puppy of Arys!!!! A puppy born THIS YEAR. So the puppy exist or not? If not - what is the reason of this comedy?

Margo,

Lupis wrote about 11 years old Arys and her future litter......she will be 11 in next year.
Quick is her last pup, was born in September. And nobody reserved him...he is mine!

so....have you seen Arys in Nitra last Friday?????????

Jasmine,

I'm jelous , you are very good breeder , sorry ... :lol:

I know, I'm french , can be other manner .....

But, I have just a little breeding family :

your manner with baby 2 weeks (outdoor !!!! :roll:)

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._7602975_n.jpg

and me with puppy 2 weeks :

http://storage.canalblog.com/06/57/537107/33295533.jpg

your puppies, 4 days :

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._1291514_n.jpg

My puppies, same age:

http://www.wolfdog.org/temp/1290291205-1723971.jpg
sorry Edith, you are right, i'm jelous of your works ..... :lol:

I received via skype next photo - sorry Edith but it seems you really try to make fools of us all....

http://www.wolfdog.org/grafiki/quick3.jpg

Puppy Quick with mother Arys (not ERYS)

???
I have wrote that Quick is from Erys???,
Where did I wrote?? Show me!!!!!


What is your problem Margo?
Are you afraid that you couldn't sale your pups from your comming 4!!!!! (but you are not producer , just a simple family breeder....) litters?????

óóóóóóóó Margo Please !
This topic is about bad Crying Wolf and not about the star z Peronowki !
Please leave me show up !

"drive you crazy so much "
Ohh nono it is realy amuseing me : ))))
I'm sorry...sorry if anybody wanted make me angry.
The only thing what I could do about these nice coments is : HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ahh bye for now...this bad breeder/owner will come to her bad dogs

see you tomorrow!

Edit

hmm.. i see, Hannah make very good detision and have a pupy with Whisper. - I think this are the best breeding plan in this years in kennel CW, but this detision make .. dogs not breeder :)
sad when female in about 9 years mas born ilegal puppy who not are planed, when breeder not saw when female have a heat :)
Edit i like You, but ... to much funny are in this alls: sterilised, not sterilised, planed not planed :) pnly dogs make good breedings plan self :)

Edith, I didn't even mentioned my kennel. You made it... Yes, I know it was like advertising but what I wanted to show were pure and simply facts: to have 4 litters was not an "accident" - it was really a very well-thought-out decision. I really have (maybe even more) time, place and helpers than breeders which have one female and one litter a year.

The topic was about very strange things which happend by your kennel. I answered here because I was infromed by my friend that he is thinking about a puppy from your "non existing litter".
I have answer for my suspicions. Sadly it only confirm what I heard from other breeders. For me it is the end of this topic... Now I know everything... Simply: some things never change...

Hurray!!
it's litter time!!
Litter time = fighting time!
sit back guys, relax and enjoy the show!
I was planning to go and see the last Harry Potter film but we have so many Voldemorts and Snapes and Hermiones here that it's far more interesting!!
Popcorn is ready, comfortable sofa too
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
Who needs to watch Tv series when we have Wolfdog.org?
And just like the best Tv series, the same stories repeat themselves every year...punctually during litter time, same actors, same ending!
:klatsch:gent:gent:klatsch

Recap of the previous episodes, for the latecomers:

martiou07, moderator of Wofldog.org, asks publically (instead of sending a personal info question) why there is an advertisment for a litter from a dog which Edit says is sterilized and retired.

Lupis (famous for having Trollish behaviour but tolerated because he attacks unfriendly users), of course uses this important argument as an excuse for labelling Crying Wolf a puppy mill (he/she/it/they like/s to do it every now and then). And because Daniela tries to spend good words on Edit, he says bad things about her too!

Solowolf (already banned in the past for bad netiquette) comes out with his usual witchhunt against breeders who overuse females, as usual, nobody gives him a hint of consideration.

Mikael and Christian, almost like the "dialogue on the two chief world systems", scientifically dispute on how there may be doubts on the pedigrees of some CW dogs.

Edit/Jasmine/Crying Wolf (so many names for just one person, like a real star!), simply explains that she made a mistake by saying her female was sterilized. that would have solved all and reduced the discussion to 2 private sentances, but, the show must go on!

Main scene: neverending fight between good and bad, between Voldemort and Harry Potter. (this time it's Margo and Edit ,but usually there are also other breeders, but the story is always the same!)
Magical wands in their hands, they discuss mostly about nonsense and planned litters of old females which are already born and therefore no longer planned but somebody else from Spain new about it and "you copied my litters" and "i am a family breeder" and "your only good litter was a mistake"

Ok, now we informed briefly about what happened till now.
Please, let's enjoy the second episode!

oh...forgot to mention, there is something NEW about the discussion, the use of Facebook which I don't recall having seen in the past.

Technology is taking it's place also in the Wofldog world!

Sorry guys if I am so ironic but, I simply can't help laughing!

So you both Margo and Edit made very good advertisement for your upcoming litters!!! Congratulations. Edit with more wolfy looking (and being?) csw and Margo with raising up in the house.

But Margo, I did not understand that you took Baron offspring and Belke? All in a row, not far to travel???? I like the outlook of Belke. But please from here it looks like you are sitting in a glace house and throwing with stones.

4 litters + how many others you did this year? So keep calm. I know you can do - and of course Edit too - the best selection - like Passo del Lupo in Italy.

Healthy pups and hopefully lots of people who are able to care right for the wolfdogs.

Nice christmas time to you all.

Christian

Quick greets his fanclub! :lol::lol::lol:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_mhIsw5gq2YY/TO...ck%20kopie.jpg

go watch harry potter you $%@&

How I see it, if Edit publicly says something (ie., Hannah is sterilized), then clarification should be made publicly, too... I myself appreciated the clarification.

It is just a full moon :roll:
Much more interesting fights are going on in one Lithuanian forum about dogs - every full moon apears someone, who says, that pedigrees are not worth anything and it is ok to make pups without pedigrees because people need puppies for "love" and "themselves", not for shows... Blabla...

And who is the father of Quick?

In fact I do not like secrets and "accidental mixing ups and saying wrong words" in such things like breeding :roll: We should all do our best to avoid gossip :roll:

No Vaiva..it's litter time...
unfortunately too much economical interests make people nervous.
It's the difference between pure passion and convenient passion...

Quick is son of Yam CW, I think he is the only puppy of the litter of Old but amazing Arys, a fantastic female! And from Daniela's pic he looks very good too!

:lol::sooo_hapy:lol: You are to funny Massimo :thumbs

But NOOOO, I do not like the ide that there is wolves added into the breed by Crying Wolf or by anyone else neither :( And I hope it is not true...

And to EDIT only, It was not me that did ask the question, even if I do think it was a good question :wink:
　
And Massimo, who is Solowolf ??? :ehmmm *Hmmm I guess my spam filter is working again* :santagrin
　
Very best regards / Mikael

AND…

PS, EDIT, I do not have to ask any question about you and your kennel as I already have all the facts I need, DS.

Yes I do. How else can you explain that he/she "attacks" just sometimes? Then dissapears. After some time comes back again...
And yes, I do :D Science doesn't speak about it a lot, so they find it harder to deal with cyclic hormonal changes 8)
Sorry for OT.

Margo, even in someone "counts" it as advertising, I think many of us would be interested to hear more about early neurological stimulation not from articles on internet :roll: Also early socialization possibilities and so on. If it is not a family secret 8) Maybe it could be a nice new topic? :roll:

I would like to join the club.... he is a beautiful puppy ;-)

solowolf is the wife of paul winder banned for talking about abusive breeding practises at Aluminum kennels italy, now roported to FCI and will be in uk dog magazine january for all to see, you and your little band of sickies on this site all called my hubby a liar about de louba tar kennels bet you all got shock when authorities closed her in 2007, puppy mill closed,,,,,,,,,as you or smart guy massimo dont leave comments we all take it that you and all the others agree that breeding a bitch at 10mths old is ok, and that taking 10 litters from her in 11 yrs is also ok, thats good at least we know what sort of people you guys really are, for in uk at present there is very many people wanting to take legal action against this kennel also the animal rights organisation, so mikael and massimo make your fun but remember animals of the breed you so profess to love are being abused both physicaly and mentally while you make fun of those decicated people trying to stop it, you and others even margo have ignored this abuse, are you affraid to speak out against Aluminum kennels? well other are not and we will be at major dog shows in 2011 to voice our oppinion to ALUMINUM KENNELS AND THE JUDGES IN EUROPE, we have lots of friends in Europe already on this kennel, we wont be quite and we will not stop till job is done, mandy winder animal rights uk and europe.
　
mikael only facts you ever have are cossip you (***nice sunny day here isn't it?***)

As you obviously didn´t use the time out to improve your vocabulary I took the freedom to report you to the mods.

Kind regards
Ina

And I took the freedom to ban him forever.
Definitely he is a lost case...

Thanks Nebb :p

And if you get the time, can you edit post #58 so that it not say my name under all what Solowolf did say inside the quote :roll:

As I do not anderstand way Solowolf did put this in MY quote

PS, No Solowolf I do not suport it at all, just as I did not suport when your friend did breed on a very young dog, but that is not what this topic is about, DS.

Very best regards / Mikael

God, I tought you were making a joke writting like Solowolf. :lol:
I will fix it.

I read this thread and again and again am sure, that never buy any CsW with any ancestor from countries, which have no rules for breeding. Is many puppy mills and I must say, that am include to this group Edit's kenel as well. Breeding without rules is a cancer, which destroy a breed of our beautiful dogs.

Thanks :)

I did really like this part, I did laugh till I fell on the floor :lol: :lol: :lol:

Best regards / Mikael

I understand what you're saying here.. it is this way in the USA. There are no requirements for health testing, maximum litters, minimum/maximum age, or titling. There isn't any requirement to get your dog vet care besides having to have rabies shot. It is not illegal in some states to shoot and kill your dog, as long as that's not considered torture. Mills routinely take their 'old stock' to the vet to be put to sleep, or sometimes do it at home with a gun. Maybe if the dogs are lucky, they will be dumped at a shelter, or maybe sold at an auction so other millers can use them again.

It's not just laws about breeding, basically there aren't strong laws for keeping dogs at all here.

Indeed I think that probably more than 90% of dogs brought and sold in the USA are from some type of mill as sold through a pet shop like a chair, or small 'backyard breeder'. What is called a Backyard Breeder means a person who isn't interested in the entire breed, just likes to breed their 1 or 2 or 3 dogs together with neighbor's dog, or owned stud dog, with no care for standards or health. You can even breed non-registered dogs, there are scam registries that will register your dog, even cross breed dog, and almost nobody cares or knows the difference.

But even still, I think it's a little unfair to say that there are NO good breeders in this country.. it takes a lot of digging and a lot of looking, lots of questions. Then maybe, you can find one.

I'm sorry this is so off topic, but it's the truth.. the more I find out about some European standards and laws for breeding and animal keeping, the more awed I am. Unfortunately in many parts of the world, animal keeping is not like that, but yet I think it is possible although difficult to find an acceptable breeder here.

For this reason I completely understand why some foreign breeders who know something about USA rules don't want to send any dog to the USA..

Sorry this is so off topic again.

I agree 100%

...that is why the quality of dogs in CZ is so high?? :lol::lol:
....that is why breeders with females in CZ look for males outside CZ who are not obliged to follow breeding rules in CZ??
funniest thing is not to read your comments (i mean, you have your ideas, I respect them but of course I am far away from you in many points) but to read those who agree with you without having the faintest idea of what they are saying!!
let the comedy continue, it's so enjoyable!!
Ops...Solowolf is gone... Hurray!
but Lupis is still there ...of course...?

I agreed to this part:
Why do you think that many countires (Kennel Clubs) has had to make rules for registrations of many breeds? If the breeders would truly be responsible, honest & only for the good of the animals & the breeds, no such thing would be required as the Kennel Club's breeding programs against hereditary deseases and the offspring limits for "matadors" etc.
Hec... they even had to change the breed standard for few breeds, to make it harder to breeders to exaggerate the features, and make the animals suffer because of it. I think it is sick.
And whenever the simple trust towards people is not enough, some laws are needed. And I think breeding living creatures who depend on the breeders responsibility, is one of those situations when the trust is proven not enough, and some laws/rules are needed to protect the animals and the breeds.

P.S. This topic is again one proof for it. :evil:

:lol: Massimo, you made my day, thank youuuuu!!!!! Intelligent as well as constructive response, if you folks can and WANT read between the lines.

Hm, obviously I failed to place my comment where I wanted to have it, sorry, I was reacting to Massimo's comment on the fighting mood of the season - when people stop listening to each other, otherwise I found the answers to the questions asked in the communication above. Didn't you?

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Excellent Massimo :p !

There are students in sociology making research on communication (communication is often called "the science of the misunderstanding", you know it's not for nothing) on forums, it's rather interesting and funny, everyone belong to a well defined category, I should point them WD forum :p.

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It is tipical for every forums: dropping shits by hidding niknames.
Without face a lot of people feel enough strenght.........

Nothing new! One of my students have already written an intercultural communiation seminar paper on the basis of three WD forums (i.e. language versions) :p:) It was really interesting, but I doubt if many would like to read it...:twisted: Anyway, it's in Polish and I don't have copyrights to publish it. :(

Wow, and Italian living in Prague made the day of a good friend who is Slovak but living in Australia...that IS cool!

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Why has Solowolf been banned for voicing an opinion that may be backed by facts or not, I don't know, but a forum full of self congratulating people and breeders not backing up what they say and generally just bitching about dogs bred by other people is hardly one that is worth joining solowolf your honest and educated opinion will be missed

Solowolf was banned for his unability to choose the words, while communicating with other members. But seems to be back with other name, isn't he? :rock_3

I think she chose her words well, and if she is back as someone else i for one is a happy bunny

I wouldn't mention the word "educated" in connection with Mr/Ms Solowolf.
Rude or ill-mannered would surely be better words to describe his/her way of communicating with others not sharing his/her opinion.

Michael

I dont know, but it was obvious solowolf was a woman with the opening line "I am the wife" I also think that she put her view on eloquently and fair I found the other users a bit rude to be honest, as are you with the mr/ mrs allegation or perhaps I don't know the full story, that being the case I apologise now

Hi pixie!!
I wonder who YOU are!!
U must have followed wll all the discussions and decided ti show up only now that solowolf has been banned...interesting coincidence!
Massimo

If you really want to know who I am then you can ask by sending me a pm or your fb page, just because I disagree with something dosent make me a liar or cheat

Hi Chris,

Solowolf is still registered as Ronnie Winder, so I must assume it's either one of them, since the bad language and the inability to write a proper sentence is more than typical (probably for both of them).
Anyway, it's just "them" for me...

Michael

Hi Michael,
I havent seen or heard bad language from them but words are just words. In this country they have done a lot for the breed and looking on there website will always help, so i have a lot of time for them and if they have upset people i believe it is because of there passion for all animals not just csv's rather than ignorance and rudeness to me deeds are what count and they have a sackful of them. Again I dont know them but just what other people who have met them tell me. I am not on here to upset people but to contribute and I think banning people with there knomledge and experience is just plain silly. my opinion but i am entitled to it
thanks Chris

Hi Chris,

of course you're entitled to post your opinion...
Otherwise we ought to close any forum or discussion.
But the know-all and patronizing style of both the "Solowolves" was just annoying. Not to mention their language...
Never ever anyone saw them at any major CSV-event, and I've been to most of them.
So they're experts on the breed?
For me just pomposity and waffle...
Anyway, I think we're off topic.

Cheers,
Michael

It is an off topic again, but if solowolf is a lady, writing these kinds of words, I am shocked twice...
Pixie, maybe you can tell us more about the current situation of wolfdogs in UK (sorry, I really thought you are solowolf with an other name...)

what would you like to know about wolfdogs in the uk? maybe i could help ;-)

layla :-)

Simply... people still do not trust too much about wolfdog owner in UK... And I think it should change. Do you enter dog shows? Do you train your dogs? Eh, this should be a separate topic
(I've been in London this September and somehow forgot to contact you... it is a pitty... )

..... i find it very strange here in uk that wolfdog owners do not unite...they seem to disappear :-(
...i think until uk accepts fci things will not look up for csv's.
the only shows we can enter here are on the working dog register as we have mutts ;-)

i am training my boy at agility and in harness with my huskys ,i am also looking to start schutzhund and/or working trials.

i wish for the breed to be in the right hands here,but sadly i still think people only want a csv so they can say they have a pet wolf and not a working breed of dog :-(

...... deleted

I dont want to fall out with you there seems to have been a lot of bad breeding in britain now it needs to change hope you get some good results for your dog, who knows he could even be the start of european trust again

yes it does seem that way :-(....and if you really have the breed and their health at heart then im with you 100 % :-)

To me the last of the posts are more about "CsV in the UK" or "Kaya´s pups", than about Crying Wolf... :?

if somebody can Moderate it I would be happy :)

Very best regards / Mikael

me too

thanks,

Edit

and me three