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GalomyOak 08-02-2011 23:01

Book on the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog - English translation?
 
Recently, I was able to see the book written by Ing. Karel Hartl and Jindrich Jedlicka (1996/2002) - and have done a rough translation into English for myself - the book is pure gold, really a delight to read, and very informative! At some point, I remember someone saying an English version was being (officially?) worked on. Did the translation ever get finished or published? If not, I would be very happy to offer my assistance on either mission - with permission from the authors and publishers, of course.

Hanka 09-02-2011 08:29

Hi Marcy, officiall english version does not exist.

Mikael 09-02-2011 22:38

Quote:

The translation is finished. Now it has to be corrected. If this is done very soon, it can be on the market about March.
That was March 2010... I do not know what did hapen after this, but I did send a PM to the one making the English version, I will post as soon as I hear from her...

Best regards / Mikael

Vaiva 09-02-2011 23:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanka (Bericht 357360)
Hi Marcy, officiall english version does not exist.

And... unofficial?....:oops:

Priska182 09-02-2011 23:45

I'm actually working on a French translation with the agreement of Ing. Karel Hartl :) And after that it will be easier to obtain an English translation... :)

GalomyOak 09-02-2011 23:56

I think I have my answer. :) I think there will be a book - in English - soon! The English speaking CSV world is in for a real treat!8) That's great that it will also be in French soon! It's a wonderful part of history for our breed!

Priska182 10-02-2011 00:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by GalomyOak (Bericht 357724)
I think I have my answer. :) I think there will be a book - in English - soon! The English speaking CSV world is in for a real treat!8) That's great that it will also be in French soon! It's a wonderful part of history for our breed!

Hello Marcy,
I also think it will be really great for our breed, and I was waiting for a French or an English version since 12 years now... So I try to do it myself ;) It's really a big job, so when the French version will be ready, it will be really great if we can work together on an English version :)
I think it will be really great if we can publish them for the breed here in America :D

wolfin 10-02-2011 00:32

I think better we mas write new book with today information about breed, training ,healty and feeding.
When I in 2002 years brought my first CSV I had and this book in czech language ( yes I read she all for me this no problem) and ... I was very sad- she are antique. old info, with very small hystorical info, and she me not help in growing my first CSV. I mas search others info resources, not this book.
Yes to read, like first CSV book- this are interesing, but not moore.

Vaiva 10-02-2011 00:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfin (Bericht 357740)
I think better we mas write new book with today information about breed, training ,healty and feeding.
When I in 2002 years brought my first CSV I had and this book in czech language ( yes I read she all for me this no problem) and ... I was very sad- she are antique. old info, with very small hystorical info, and she me not help in growing my first CSV. I mas search others info resources, not this book.
Yes to read, like first CSV book- this are interesing, but not moore.

Dear, if you write this book I will ASURE the professional english translation - if you make it in Lithuanian, and I am sure you can :twisted: Not translated by myself ofcourse, but I have some friends that could help in this work!!!

wolfin 10-02-2011 00:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vaiva (Bericht 357743)
Dear, if you write this book I will ASURE the professional english translation - if you make it in Lithuanian, and I am sure you can :twisted: Not translated by myself ofcourse, but I have some friends that could help in this work!!!

this working... moore info soon.. 8) thanks :)

michaelundinaeichhorn 10-02-2011 10:13

Daiva is right. Even in 2002 the information was quite limited.
You get more information if you work yourself through this website.

Michael

Koos 10-02-2011 11:19

Hello

The book of K. Hartl we have translated at first into the Dutch language. After that we have let made it into the German version and we have worked also on the English version.

This took more time than we have expected but now it is ready and the book will be available at least at the end of this month.

Greetings,

Letty de Graaff
Kennel van Goverwelle
www.graaff-goverwelle.nl

elf 10-02-2011 11:37

Are you all refering too "Ceskoslovenský vlcák, Ing. Karel Hartl, Jindrich Jedlicka, Brno 2002" (60p pdf) ?

If yes take care to don't reinvent the wheel, even if no perfect google translation works very good (I read it no problem through ces->eng translation), the only pitfall is google allow only something like 10 pages translation but this can easliy be solve by pdf spiting/merging (pdfsam software).

If someone is working on a new book, please include the great work done by genetic department of CZ university.

André 10-02-2011 11:48

CZ Univ? Which univ exactly?

elf 10-02-2011 12:55

I though of this one: http://www.fappz.dev.webcore.czu.cz/en/?r=2382

Would be nice to gather somewhere Universities working on CSV, and gather publications in one thread.

Mikael 10-02-2011 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoosLetydeGraaff (Bericht 357782)
Hello

The book of K. Hartl we have translated at first into the Dutch language. After that we have let made it into the German version and we have worked also on the English version.

This took more time than we have expected but now it is ready and the book will be available at least at the end of this month.

Greetings,

Letty de Graaff
Kennel van Goverwelle
www.graaff-goverwelle.nl

Nice Letty :) Good Work :klatsch

I want one or maybe more than one :p

Very best regards / Mikael

Priska182 10-02-2011 22:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoosLetydeGraaff (Bericht 357782)
This took more time than we have expected but now it is ready and the book will be available at least at the end of this month.

WOW it's really nice to at list will be able to purchase it in English :)
Thank you for your work on it :)

mijke 11-02-2011 02:30

Of course it would be GREAT to have an English translation of this original book :)

But I agree with Daiva, Mikael, Vaiva , Michael, Elf and others :)
It is an old "standard" book about the beginning of the breed (and of course still very interesting!)

But even in 2002 the information was quite limited and on wolfdog.org this is/was (since the crash it is more limited) possible to find more info about nowadays development about this breed ;)

So I agree with Daiva for 100% with this comment:
Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfin (Bericht 357740)
I think better we mas write new book with today information about breed, training ,healty and feeding.
When I in 2002 years brought my first CSV I had and this book in czech language ( yes I read she all for me this no problem) and ... I was very sad- she are antique. old info, with very small hystorical info, and she me not help in growing my first CSV. I mas search others info resources, not this book.
Yes to read, like first CSV book- this are interesing, but not moore.

And I'll support writers of "new books" about the breed as much as I can :)

hanninadina 11-02-2011 10:54

@Elf are there genetics research information from the University in Czech done for czechoslovakian wolfdogs? Do you have the direct link. Or why are you refering to them?

Thanks

Christian

PS: in first short look, I could not find a word about the csw.

buidelwolf 11-02-2011 20:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by hanninadina (Bericht 357967)
@Elf are there genetics research information from the University in Czech done for czechoslovakian wolfdogs? Do you have the direct link. Or why are you refering to them?

Thanks

Christian

PS: in first short look, I could not find a word about the csw.

http://wp.czu.cz/cs/index.php/?r=107...ion=1263281364

http://wp.czu.cz/cs/index.php/?r=107...ion=1263281380

Arnolda 17-02-2011 13:07

http://www.amazon.com/Wolfdogs-Z-Behavior-Training-Hybrids/dp/096677261X

http://www.amazon.com/Living-Wolfdogs-Everyday-Companionship-Education/dp/0966772644

Vaiva 17-02-2011 13:08

Well, wolfdogs are not hybrids :roll:

Arnolda 17-02-2011 13:25

I know but it is intresting to read about it.

michaelundinaeichhorn 21-02-2011 01:21

Might be interesting (not really) to read but these books are just another excuse for all those weird hybrid breeders and owners.

Michael

Koos 05-04-2011 17:18

English Version Book from K. Hartl
 
Hello to everybody,

The book from K. Hartl in the English version is available now.

The costs are Euro 19,50 without postage.

This is for sending in Europe Euro 3,50 and out of Europe Euro 5,50.

You can order the book by E-mail message with your fully name and adress and you get an answer back with the further information you need for the paying.

Greetings,

Letty de Graaff
E-mail adress [email protected]
WWW: graaff-goverwelle.nl

Richard Graham 05-04-2011 18:22

Hi i would be very graetful if you could forward details where to purchase this book

draggar 05-04-2011 22:06

PM sent (and bump)

pixie 06-04-2011 09:47

Hi Would like the book as well can you post details

Murph 06-04-2011 13:16

I would be very much interested in this book!
Also how do people rate the two wolfdog books available on amazon at linked above?.. I have thought about purchasing them in the past but not sure how relevant they would be for czechs

Puma 07-04-2011 09:48

Is this amazon.com or is this wolfdog.org?

Free advertising for breeders to sell their books, isn't that called spamming? :|

Here's a reference, just my thoughts on this book, I purchased the Dutch version a few years ago:

compilation of text and wordings one will find at any Google search on "wolfdog" on the internet. Imho this site has more information on wolfdogs and is of more value.

But probably a nice to have for wolfdog owners, no more, no less.

Richard Graham 13-06-2011 21:04

is this book avalible yet

draggar 13-06-2011 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by richardgraham (Bericht 385415)
is this book avalible yet

I got a PM from another member (on May 11th) here saying we can get paying though Paypal but I didn't hear back when I asked how / where. :(

Richard Graham 13-06-2011 21:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by draggar (Bericht 385417)
I got a PM from another member (on May 11th) here saying we can get paying though Paypal but I didn't hear back when I asked how / where. :(

thanks anyway

Priska182 14-06-2011 03:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by draggar (Bericht 385417)
I got a PM from another member (on May 11th) here saying we can get paying though Paypal but I didn't hear back when I asked how / where. :(

You need to contact Letty in PM :-) Personally I bought my book few month ago and I'm really glad with it :-D
An other nice book no the CsV: Il fascino del lupo edition ALTEA (you need to purchase it from there website. Is both in Italian and in English in the same book :-))
Best regards,

Priska182 14-06-2011 03:56

To contact Letty : http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/member.php?u=54
For Il Fascino del Lupo: http://www.ilfascinodellupo.com/
This is a huge book, with 220 pages and gorgeous photography (you can see some on my website http://www.inugami.ca/2011/03/il-fascino-del-lupo/. Well, I know it's in French and Italian :p Sorry, but the book is really both language (Italian and English) :D)

draggar 14-06-2011 11:43

That's who contacted me and I responded back.

Maybe I'll shoot them another PM. :(

mijke 14-06-2011 11:56

The English version of the original book of Karl Hartl translated by kennel van Goverwelle.
Price €23,00 sending in Europe and €25,50 for outside Europe

The book will send if the money is on our bankaccount

Don't forget to mention your name and adress if you transfer the money!

Bank account: 350210 in the mane of J de Graaff.
IBAN: NL91 PSTB 0000 350210.
BIC: PSTBNL21

Koos 14-06-2011 13:48

Paying by Pay Pal is also possible,

Letty

Priska182 14-06-2011 14:07

Personally, I obtained from them one of the best service ever :)
Thanks again Letty :D

Richard Graham 15-06-2011 10:09

csv book (English)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KoosLetydeGraaff (Bericht 385684)
Paying by Pay Pal is also possible,

Letty

Hi Letty could you please forward details on how i pay for this book please Regards ,Richie

Jennin Lauma 19-06-2011 01:38

I couldn't find the English version of the Il fascino del lupo. I only found the link to purchase the italian version for 40€

Is this book only a photographic book, or is there also information included?

Priska182 19-06-2011 03:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jennin Lauma (Bericht 387456)
I couldn't find the English version of the Il fascino del lupo. I only found the link to purchase the italian version for 40€

Is this book only a photographic book, or is there also information included?

Hello,
It's the same book :) This book is in Italian with English translation (example page 3 in Italian, page 5 in English etc...).
This book is at first a photographic one (95%) but there is some nice information on it (it's interesting but it's really not Karel book ;) ).
I'm really glad to have it! This book is expensive but so big and beautiful :D I really like it :D
Regards,

Priska182 19-06-2011 06:21

Il fascino del lupo is quite huge : 12"x13", 223 pages and a lot of amazing photography by Carolina de Homem Christo :)

Here some pics:

http://www.inugami.ca/temp/WDforum/1.jpg http://www.inugami.ca/temp/WDforum/2.jpg

Italian Introduction by Ing Karel Hartl:

http://www.inugami.ca/temp/WDforum/3%20it.jpg

Introduction - English translation:

http://www.inugami.ca/temp/WDforum/4%20eng.jpg

And probably one of the best pics ;)

http://www.inugami.ca/temp/WDforum/5.jpg

yukidomari 19-06-2011 22:45

I'd like to buy this book but I can't find anywhere I can order this from. Would anyone happen to have any source? Thank you.

Priska182 20-06-2011 00:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by yukidomari (Bericht 387659)
I'd like to buy this book but I can't find anywhere I can order this from. Would anyone happen to have any source? Thank you.

Just go here: http://www.ilfascinodellupo.com/
Click on "ACQISITA" (on the right top of the page)
It's in Italian but it's not really complicated :) If you need some help you can still PM me :)

Jennin Lauma 20-06-2011 02:15

Ok, thank you for the clarification! :)
Beautiful pictures. Who's dogs are in the pictures? Pretty wolfy looking individuals.

Priska182 20-06-2011 07:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jennin Lauma (Bericht 387703)
Ok, thank you for the clarification! :)
Beautiful pictures. Who's dogs are in the pictures? Pretty wolfy looking individuals.

You're very welcome :-)
I don't know for these dogs especialy but apparently it's in majority CsV from Passo del Lupo :-)


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