CzW in Spain
 

hi Margo thank you for the information & putting my mind at ease, we have friends in spain who want a czech pup so we hope to get the czechs to spain very soon, regards paul & mandy

Hi,

There's already one CzW in Spain. Please look here:
http://www.wolfdog.org/dbase/d/5855

And if I'm not mistaken there were also some imported from Italy but we don't have any details yet.

This is great news that there are already czechs in spain,. i hope to see some appearing at shows when they are old enough, any info greatly apreshiated best regards paul

Hello from Spain
 

Hello to all the list members, I´m new here, I´m thinking about the dog that I´d like to have in the next future, and I like very much the wolf dog, I saw one three years ago in Italy while I was on hollidays, and I was very impressed by such a beautiful animal, I´m vet, and I´m persian and exotic cats breeder, and I have lived always with all kind of animals and of course with dogs.
Best regards,
David

There is already one CzW in your country:
Mishy od Úhoste living in Santa Coloma de Gramanet.

And also in Portugal are 4 CzWs (near Porto): Alistair Wolf z Peronówki, Queen of Dreams z Molu Es, Aron & Balrog z Peronówki.

Re: Hello from Spain
 

hi David welcome to wolfdog.org we are very pleased you are interested in the czechoslovakian wolfdog, there is lots of information on the site and you are welcome to ask questions to any members for advise, i have just purchased some land in almeria southern spain so there will be plenty of czechs there very soon, what part of spain do you live in ? i am staying in france for short time, please visit our web site at XXXX hope to hear from you very soon best regards paul and mandy adios

Well, this thread has no postings from many years ago, since 2004.
Things has changes in Spain about the CzW.
Now, as far as I know there are four breeders and a long list of CzW compilates by Tuky:

- A'Chacal de la Real Corte de las Arcanas
- A'Ché de la Real Corte de las Arcanas
- Adrienne Pacino
- Aida Castell del Senillar
- Aika Castell del Senillar
- A'Konnan de la Real Corte de las Arcanas
- Alcina Pacino
- Alfa ---l'Amico del Lupo---
- Ambar Castell del Senillar
- Anat de la Real Corte de las Arcanas
- Angelo vom Raunjak Hof
- Anuk Castell del Senillar in Mallorca
- Arnet z Kopáčkova dvora
- Aros de la Real Corte de las Arcanas
- Blacky Castell del Senillar
- Bagsy Castell del Senillar
- Basay Castell del Senillar
- Bashi Castell del Senillar
- Bilma Castell del Senillar
- Boss Castell del Senillar
- Banjo du Domaine de la Combe Noire
- Best Wolf du Domaine de la Combe Noire
- Boss 2 du Center Club Moloss Wolf
- Calamoon Arimminum
- Dieuwke Ddora van de Kilstroom
- Emba von der Wolfsranch
- Fenrir les P'tits Loups d'Amour
- Fiora les P'tits Loups d'Amour
- Ginevra Arimminum (shirka)
- Irina Cosmo Daniel D'Elite
- Ituborys Girios dvasia
- Junior Kenai Arimminum (kenai)
- Jupiter Cosmo Daniel D'Elite
- O-Taro od Úhoště
- Rainbow Crying Wolf
- Veylyn z Molu Es (koko)
- Wanasa-pi Romulus Shunk Manitu Tanka
• Zimbro do Lugar do Poço (Lobo) in Málaga;
• Zafra do Lugar do Poço in Salamanca;
• Zita do Lugar do Poço in Lucena;
• Zara do Lugar do Poço (Nür) in Coruña.

I'm sure there are not all of them, so if anyone may know the missings, I'll appreciate it

And Yvain Crying Wolf. :)

Regards

Sorry, the same mistake :(

Here is the whole list according the database:

A'Chacal de la Real Corte de las Arcanas
A'Ché de la Real Corte de las Arcanas
Adrienne Pacino
Aida Castell del Senillar
Aika Castell del Senillar
A'Konnan de la Real Corte de las Arcanas
Alcina Pacino
Alfa ---l'Amico del Lupo---
Ambar Castell del Senillar
Amena Lobin de la Torre
Anat de la Real Corte de las Arcanas
Angelo vom Raunjak Hof
Anuk Castell del Senillar
Arnet z Kopáčkova dvora
Aros de la Real Corte de las Arcanas
Atamasca Lobin de la Torre
Atma Vlčí legenda
Bagsy Castell del Senillar
Balcan Castell del Senillar
Banjo du Domaine de la Combe Noire
Basay Castell del Senillar
Bashi Castell del Senillar
Best Wolf du Domaine de la Combe Noire
Bilma Castell del Senillar
Boss Castell del Senillar
Boss 2 du Center Club Moloss Wolf
Calamoon Arimminum
Chez z Vlčího dubu
Cira z Vlčího dubu
Corail du Domaine de la Combe Noire
Dieuwke Ddora van de Kilstroom
Emba von der Wolfsranch
Fenrir les P'tits Loups d'Amour
Fiora les P'tits Loups d'Amour
Ginevra Arimminum
Irina Cosmo Daniel D'Elite
Ituborys Girios dvasia
Junior Kenai Arimminum
Jupiter Cosmo Daniel D'Elite
Kimaris Kay z Peronówki
O-Taro od Úhoště
Rainbow Crying Wolf
Veylyn z Molu Es
Wanasa-pi Romulus Shunk Manitu Tanka
Yvain Crying Wolf
Zafra Lugar do Poço
Zara Lugar do Poço
Zimbro Lugar do Poço
Zita Lugar do Poço

+ Crying Wolf Chaos....he will fligh today to Valencia : ))))))))))))
Good luck !

My wish too.:)
And we reached 50 CzWs in Spain

Mishy od Uhoste

Can you be a little more specific ?
I mean, where is placed ?

Campos,C/Monturiol
Santa Coloma of Gramanet

atma is not in spain :( she is in the sky, she died for parvovirus

i study in valencia, When he comes to valencia? It would be good to stay with in order that Kay could play with
:roll:

The number of CzW grow really fast!!

Hello
 

I went last march at Girona to see one of the shows of that breed. I don´t know the name of the dogs, but I have recorded it on my computer, I mean a little bit of the exposition.

hello friends
already been 2 years from the last post and i think that we already have in spain like 100 dogs +/-

i would like to ask you :) what do you think about it, it is a large growth, or its normal?

chaooo!!! from the cold and snowing madrid...

And Doubayh de la Blackwolfdog cie

I from Madrid, Spain

pedro, haber que piensa la gente de europa, que tienen mas experiencia con el plc que los españoles..
me interesa mucho saber si la subida que estamos teniendo en españa con el plc es rapida o es normal..
algo de miedo me recorre el cuerpo..
ehh!!! esa foto me suena!!!:):lol:esta muy guapo tio..:lol:voy a llamar a la sgae jejejejeje!!!

hello again everybody!!!

the question i did before is just because i have a hunch that maybe in spain we are starting the fashion-plc.

and the truth its that i don,t like to much the idea..
just would like to know what think the people outside of spain..

byee byeee

The situation in Spain is the following one:

Until 2009 there were the officially inscribed ones in our country 69 dogs, there is this is necessary to add the baby boon of this year, it is necessary to add the dogs that come from Europe and are not inscribed here, and to the total we reduce him the deceased or those who have gone to other countries.


I think that we will be approximately 150 dogs or more.

We have good males and females, but it begins to excasear the contribution of new worn blood of out.

Our neighboring countries should have us already in consideration, so as already I say we have very good copies which well might be given to crossings with breeding of another country.

For May of next year it is a good occasion in order that owners avenge of out and could know the quality that already we have here. In this date one is going to produce the international exhibition of the centenary, in which in the same weekend it might obtain the championship of Spain

http://www.rsce.es/web/images/rsce/n...centenario.pdf


The only one problem for saying it somehow, is that it has to come blood of new lines that refresh what exists here.

there are people in Spain that it is traveling in Europe to achieve that we need new blood

When I can drive to spain with a CSW (not for wolfdog things ;) ) I think the breeders from spain can also drive to an other country , If they want to. My dog is used to driving in the car, so he goes to sleeping mode when we are at the highways and goed into action when the car stops. It doesn't matter if we drive 6 hours or 1 hour or 16 hours

We even slept in a hotel in bordeaux sud without a problem :)

You can consider a small holiday in the country from the stud dog, or what you can do invite the stud dog into your country for a small holiday :)

Hola Alberto,

the chec wolfdog never will be a fashion dog in spain.
First, the spanish people usually don´t like animals very much :)
second, the economic problems increases.
third, there are only a few breeders in spain.
fourth, 150 population of chec wolfdogs in spain is really nothing.

Saludos a Madrid
Miguel

...I agree absolutly with you. This discusion apears a year ago and I did not understand the problem. Spain is not separated from Europe at all.
So, what??!! :)

Miguel

...where will be these good males and females when the population is 150 and you don´t travel to other countries for new blood?
I cannot see which "in consideration" other countries should have, when your bloodlines already exist in many, many lines in your neigbourhood countries.

Miguel

This is false.
The first dog came in 2007, and in few mas of 2 years they are already approximately 150 copies. In what country does this happen?
The rest of Europa goes more time knowing to this one race and here not.
In Spain there resides historically one of the major populations of wild wolf. This does that there exists a great admiration for this animal and for everything what him looks alike.
There where we walk with our dogs we cause great admiration and amazement.
In a few years you will verify that the growth of the race in Spain is going to be very superior to that of the rest of the world.

The fact that dogs exist more or less it is not indicative of the quality. In several countries the quantity is very top but the quality is deficient.
If there are good copies though the total number is low. But they are not dogs that travel to contests of other countries and do not have "advertising" of there that does not know itself them.
All the lines have we? Do you know them your?
Spanish or breeding breeders who bandage dogs in Spain are different but not they all do it for the benefit of the race but rather for own benefit. There are persons in charge who seek to bring mas copies to enrich the population. Others only extract litters.

?????

This is defintly not right. First dogs came in 2003
and the population grows as normal as in other countries. The population will stop to grow like in the past.
150 population is no fashion dog. It´s a dog that nobody will have.
That´s the truth!!!

Yes, you are right. And in Spain are less and bad.

That is for you a fashionable dog? The one that has major n º? The one that increases % his n º with regard to last year?

According to the RSCE http://www.rsce.es/web/images/rsce/V..._2004-2009.pdf
the race mas numerous in Spain is the yorkshire terrier with 81.000 dogs, and it suffered a decrease of 6.55 % in 2009 with regard to 2008
The second race is partor German with 61.000 dogs and it suffered a decrease of 5.38 %
The third one is golden retriever with 24.000 dogs and it suffered a decrease of 7.55 %
Would they be this that estan fashionable, attending to n º of dogs?

If it is for increase, let's see the results:
1 º. Eurasier, increase of 600 % happens from 1 dog to 7
2 º. Bloodhound of baviera, I increase of 428 %, it happens from 7 dogs to 37
3 º. Welsh Corgi 200 % from 5 to 15 dogs
4 º. Cao da Serra 200 % spends from 1 to 3 dogs
5 º. Terrier Russian 181 % from 11 to 31 dogs
6 º. Podenco Ibicenco 165 % spends from 55 to 146 dogs
7 º. Norfolk terrier 160 % spends from 5 to 13
8 º. Blue bloodhound gascuña 150 % from 2 to 5 dogs
9 º. check 122 % from 18 to 40 dogs

Would you be these races those that are fashionable?

If we remove the races with less than 40 we would be the second ones.

According to the VDH in Germany, in 2008 87 new puppies registered and in the alone 2009 60
Is so many difference with regard to Spain?
There is it fashionable, with a decrease?

Some of your dogs are in Spain, also are they this inside the bad?

Pedrocalle, I can sense you have huge problems with English, then I would like to kindly invite you to use Spanish forum.

It is evident that yes. My English is across the translator of google and not always it goes out well.
The post it have not begun I and fodder that if it is interesting worldwide

It make more sense than try to write in English and not be fully understood by who is reading.

Everyone can read the Spanish forum at wolfdog.org, writting in properly Spanish the translator even makes a good work, I feel that's also why some breeders seems to fear use the wolfdog.org Spanish version.


Besides you can always pass a topic to other forum by opening a new topic and quoting what you want to continue there.