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michaelundinaeichhorn · 21-11-2007, 22:21

Christian hat allerdings in einem Punkt Recht, ich habe Monika Sokupova was die Clubmitgliedschaft angeht mit Jindirch Jedlicka verwechselt. Sie hat zwar versucht einen eigenen Club zu gründen ist aber immer noch Mitglied im Tschechischen Club.
Beim Nachschauen bin ich allerdings auf eine weitere Merkwürdigkeit gestoßen:

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Originally Posted by massimo

Jindra is surely from what i've seen one of the best living judges of Csw.
I am not interested in this moment of all the "political" background which brings this excellent person not to judge anymore in CZ and SK, there can be wrights and wrongs of course, but it's a loss for the breed, I assure you!

Is no "political" things. Simply Jedlicka and Soukupova staing today against the Czech club and Jedlicka officially declare just 13.2.2005, that teke back his judge registration and will be no more judging (see http://www.sky.cz/seda-eminence/). Is he still be judge or not, I dont know, but from this time is no delegate to shows. Both trying to established new club as well and try to registered in FCI (what was refuse).
So its not "political", its only, that Jedlicka and Soukupova doing anything against the today Czech club and both shows like a very bad persons. Its very sorry, because everybody knows, that both have very much knowledges about CsW and experiences. But today they dont want to cooperate (Jedlicka is just 2 years not a member of czech club). And last one is, that both fully support the hybrids Mutara and illegally crossing this hybrids, although that Czech club says, that crossing the hybrids must agree the Club first. Do you mean, that they doing good for our race ?
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25-09-2007, 18:06 #15 rocco
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Pavel is one of the biggest liar in the world.

In fact - the main reason, why Jindra don't want judge for KCHCSV (and he is not a member of Club although he was one of the founders ) is Pavel's "screening" Monikas email post !!!!!!!!! Realy - Pavel had password to Monika's email and at least 4 years read Monikas privacy emails !!!!! Ilegaly of course. And Pavel send the "interesting emails" to other person - Karel Skoupy, Margo, Helena Hubackova, Jaroslav Hospodka, Zdenek Benes !!!!!!!
All this people ( except Zdenek Benes) are big liers too. Czech police of course do nothing - becouse all this people lies to police too.
It is true. And this people are now "high functionary" in Czech club !!!! Liers and amoral people.

If you don't belive it - just ask Monika or Jindra or Olina or many other people in Czech - or translate Jindrich page.

I am not able ( and don't want ) disscus here on Wolfdog. For me Pavel and specified people are liars and amoral people. And I hate liars.

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25-09-2007, 18:29 #16 Nebulosa
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I not want say who is right or wrong, nor my opinion, but something call my attention here:

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Pavel had password to Monika's email and at least 4 years read Monikas privacy emails

So... she must imagine that her privacity informations have scape, why she dont had change the password ?

PS: Sorry the stupid question but that really call my attention.

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25-09-2007, 19:08 #17 Pavel
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Rocco, be carefully with personal attack. You know, that everything happend (i mean the hystery about "emails screening" etc.) first after the votes, where was not Monika, mostly because her support of Mutaras hybrids, choice by club members to the club commitee. "Emails screening" is legend, which somebody build against me and some other people. Monika lodge information against us with police and after investigation was state the fact, that we are innocence.
You lie with Jedlicka as well. You must not ask for translation, here is a part. On his pages he wrote (its quote from his leter to club commitee) : "Do tydne pozadam o vyskrtnuti ze seznamu mezinarodnich rozhodcich FCI a CMKU..." (... Until one week I ask for a cancel my registration in index of international judges of FCI and CMKU...). What can I say more ... ? Who is here liar ?
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Danach hat Jindrich Jedlicka seinen Rücktritt als Richter schon 2005 nach dem Mutara-Eklat erklärt?? Dies wird mit einem offenen Brief auf der angegebenen Homepage erklärt.

Der Rest tut nichts zur Sache, die Betreiber von wolfdog.org wurden nach der Aufdeckung der Mutarasache mit einer Reihe von Klagen überzogen die meines Wissens ausnahmslos abgewiesen wurden. Dazu können sie selber aber mehr sagen.

Und zum letzten Mal @Christian: Weder hat irgendjemand je behauptet das Milan und Sona nicht in Italien waren noch hat das Ausleihen von Deckrüden gegen sehr gute Bezahlung irgendetwas mit dem persönlichen Verhältnis von Personen untereinander zu tun. Man kann durchaus Clubschauen besuchen ohne mit dem Clubvorstand persönlich befreundet zu sein. Und wie sich problemlos errechnen läßt wurde Isi vor besagter Körung ausgeliehen.

Die Körung von Sangria Passo de Lupo und seinen Schwestern war einige Monate früher als die Clubschau auf der Du hier permanetn rumreitest. Und wenn er als offiziell gekört und nicht jugendgekört gilt ist auch dies ein Verstoß gegen die Körregeln als Rüde darf er mit 13 Monaten noch gar nicht zugelassen werden.

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michaelundinaeichhorn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Bad Dürkheim Posts: 2,249	Christian hat allerdings in einem Punkt Recht, ich habe Monika Sokupova was die Clubmitgliedschaft angeht mit Jindirch Jedlicka verwechselt. Sie hat zwar versucht einen eigenen Club zu gründen ist aber immer noch Mitglied im Tschechischen Club. Beim Nachschauen bin ich allerdings auf eine weitere Merkwürdigkeit gestoßen: .................................................. ................................. Originally Posted by massimo Jindra is surely from what i've seen one of the best living judges of Csw. I am not interested in this moment of all the "political" background which brings this excellent person not to judge anymore in CZ and SK, there can be wrights and wrongs of course, but it's a loss for the breed, I assure you! Is no "political" things. Simply Jedlicka and Soukupova staing today against the Czech club and Jedlicka officially declare just 13.2.2005, that teke back his judge registration and will be no more judging (see http://www.sky.cz/seda-eminence/). Is he still be judge or not, I dont know, but from this time is no delegate to shows. Both trying to established new club as well and try to registered in FCI (what was refuse). So its not "political", its only, that Jedlicka and Soukupova doing anything against the today Czech club and both shows like a very bad persons. Its very sorry, because everybody knows, that both have very much knowledges about CsW and experiences. But today they dont want to cooperate (Jedlicka is just 2 years not a member of czech club). And last one is, that both fully support the hybrids Mutara and illegally crossing this hybrids, although that Czech club says, that crossing the hybrids must agree the Club first. Do you mean, that they doing good for our race ? Last edited by Pavel : 25-09-2007 at 07:10. Pavel View Public Profile Send a private message to Pavel Visit Pavel's homepage! Find More Posts by Pavel Add Pavel to Your Buddy List 25-09-2007, 18:06 #15 rocco Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 osts: 177 Pavel is one of the biggest liar in the world. In fact - the main reason, why Jindra don't want judge for KCHCSV (and he is not a member of Club although he was one of the founders ) is Pavel's "screening" Monikas email post !!!!!!!!! Realy - Pavel had password to Monika's email and at least 4 years read Monikas privacy emails !!!!! Ilegaly of course. And Pavel send the "interesting emails" to other person - Karel Skoupy, Margo, Helena Hubackova, Jaroslav Hospodka, Zdenek Benes !!!!!!! All this people ( except Zdenek Benes) are big liers too. Czech police of course do nothing - becouse all this people lies to police too. It is true. And this people are now "high functionary" in Czech club !!!! Liers and amoral people. If you don't belive it - just ask Monika or Jindra or Olina or many other people in Czech - or translate Jindrich page. I am not able ( and don't want ) disscus here on Wolfdog. For me Pavel and specified people are liars and amoral people. And I hate liars. __________________ Rocc rocco View Public Profile Send a private message to rocco Visit rocco's homepage! Find More Posts by rocco Add rocco to Your Buddy List 25-09-2007, 18:29 #16 Nebulosa Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rio Grande do Sul Posts: 419 I not want say who is right or wrong, nor my opinion, but something call my attention here: Quote: Pavel had password to Monika's email and at least 4 years read Monikas privacy emails So... she must imagine that her privacity informations have scape, why she dont had change the password ? PS: Sorry the stupid question but that really call my attention. Last edited by Nebulosa : 25-09-2007 at 18:31. Reason: ... Nebulosa View Public Profile Send a private message to Nebulosa Find More Posts by Nebulosa Add Nebulosa to Your Buddy List 25-09-2007, 19:08 #17 Pavel Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,151 Rocco, be carefully with personal attack. You know, that everything happend (i mean the hystery about "emails screening" etc.) first after the votes, where was not Monika, mostly because her support of Mutaras hybrids, choice by club members to the club commitee. "Emails screening" is legend, which somebody build against me and some other people. Monika lodge information against us with police and after investigation was state the fact, that we are innocence. You lie with Jedlicka as well. You must not ask for translation, here is a part. On his pages he wrote (its quote from his leter to club commitee) : "Do tydne pozadam o vyskrtnuti ze seznamu mezinarodnich rozhodcich FCI a CMKU..." (... Until one week I ask for a cancel my registration in index of international judges of FCI and CMKU...). What can I say more ... ? Who is here liar ? .................................................. ...................................... Danach hat Jindrich Jedlicka seinen Rücktritt als Richter schon 2005 nach dem Mutara-Eklat erklärt?? Dies wird mit einem offenen Brief auf der angegebenen Homepage erklärt. Der Rest tut nichts zur Sache, die Betreiber von wolfdog.org wurden nach der Aufdeckung der Mutarasache mit einer Reihe von Klagen überzogen die meines Wissens ausnahmslos abgewiesen wurden. Dazu können sie selber aber mehr sagen. Und zum letzten Mal @Christian: Weder hat irgendjemand je behauptet das Milan und Sona nicht in Italien waren noch hat das Ausleihen von Deckrüden gegen sehr gute Bezahlung irgendetwas mit dem persönlichen Verhältnis von Personen untereinander zu tun. Man kann durchaus Clubschauen besuchen ohne mit dem Clubvorstand persönlich befreundet zu sein. Und wie sich problemlos errechnen läßt wurde Isi vor besagter Körung ausgeliehen. Die Körung von Sangria Passo de Lupo und seinen Schwestern war einige Monate früher als die Clubschau auf der Du hier permanetn rumreitest. Und wenn er als offiziell gekört und nicht jugendgekört gilt ist auch dies ein Verstoß gegen die Körregeln als Rüde darf er mit 13 Monaten noch gar nicht zugelassen werden. Last edited by michaelundinaeichhorn; 21-11-2007 at 22:35.