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Originally Posted by Malgor
Yes, I *am* having problems with them, and they *are* turning all my expectations of training upside down - but to say that it is "obvious you can not cope" is (to be polite about it) presumptuous and arrogant. I am coping fine, thank you very much.
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I think you have got a wrong impression due to a misunderstaning. I undersatnd you
consciously bought two pups while neesk got them
by surprise, which makes a huge difference! You seem to know a lot about dogs while neesk asked questions showing that he found strange what seemed ordinary pup behviour.
These two cases got mixed together, so don't blame people for being cautious. Just as Mirka and others pointed out - there were so many cases when the dogs suffered because the owners couldn't cope with them, that it would be much better to act soon than to be sorry later. When serious difficulties occur usually it's the dog that suffers first and most severely- his character may be ruined for good and in result he might not find a good home.
I also think that it'd be much wiser to start with one pup, get experience, learn from it and only then buy the second one and have another try. Everybody is bound to make mistakes when raising their first CSV, so why should the errors be doubled?
Recently I met two one-year-old bitches from the same litter, who grew up in the same household and they were as cheerful and as obedient as CSVs of their age could probably be. I was really impressed by the level of their socialisation! So this is not impossible. However, they were raised by people who've owned CSVs for many years and have much experience with the breed.
From what I have experienced and observed the most important strategic advice for the CSV owner is to learn how to "think" his dog: he should try to understand the reasons of his CSV's behaviour (instead of calling him stupid) Brining up a CSV is kind of mutual learning, testing, making concessions on both sides, building respect, partnership step by step, all the time! CSV is not a GSD and will never obey just for the fun of obeying - the owner must mentally convince him that he's the leader and it's worthwile to be on good terms with the leader. Just as somebody pointed out - making clear rules and being consistant.
You will find a lot of useful info under the threads:
http://www.wolfdog.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=66
and articles:
http://www.wolfdog.org/eng/articles/cat179.html
If you have any specific questions/problems I'm sure people will help you with them.
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To neesk: I'd advise you to read some good book on raising pups, then study wolfdog site and only then,
but asap decide if you're ready to face the double or rather tripple challenge or not. If not, you'd better put an annoucement in the section: CSV looking for new home. I'm sure everybody'd understand and support you, because this would mean that you're acting in the best interest of the dog and his future.
