[massimo]

wow...so many arguments in just one thread.

Tail: I may be wrong but the "curly" tails i've seen were generally not short tails but long ones.
A short tail usually doesn't have the possibility to curl as a long one.
I've seen some dogs with not only the curl but also a kind of deviation to the side. which is not the worst defect in the world but doesn't look nice for sure (at it's proven to be genetic...seen mother and puppies with same "problem")
so in general tail which is UP during show shouldn't be penalized at all...instead tails which are below belly for me should be just "good" or even disqualified because of character.
Pictures of characters I've seen in this thread alone, without knowing the environment around and the situation mean absolutely NOTHING.
Many of you know my Oliver and it's generally difficult not to see his tail UP.
But special environments like during washing up (done by a third person) or when he is eating and I am next to him or when mirka's Cira or Monika's Go Go beat him up his tail is under the belly too. If I take a pic of him in those moments...you would get a totally wrong impression of him.

I agree with the pic from Navarre about "curly" and "straight" and I think Short straight is better than long and curly (or deviating)

Hungarian dogs:
it is true that some hungarian dogs have bad characters...just as some italian, some slovak, some czech, some french...bla bla bla.
There is only one hungarian breeder so if you want to speak directly just do it.
It's obvious that breeders with several litters have not enough time to dedicate to socialise all pups...that's a fact.
I am absolutely satisfied of my CW and I know many with very good characters. Some of them are even too hyperactive (Mona's line!)

All depends on blood, owners and of course also breeder.
Whatever the dog may be if owner has done a good socialization it will NEVER be a dog with tail under belly afraid of it's own shadow, I am sure of that.
Massimo