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Old 18-07-2008, 20:00   #9
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this is not problematic make - i see data base and see- dogs have or not have HD ED exam, have or not have bonitation, have or not have working exams
I am really surprised about your position of ruler and judge.
Also you never incite properly more moderation in your remarks and, especially reflections and clearness on the WD’s database.

I ‘m only one simple Frenchwoman’s breeder and yet a long time ago that I noted, that the base of information, even if it is very instructive and interesting, swarming with errors, carelessness, oversight ,oblivion on all topics.

You would undoubtedly be surprised for a number of anomalies which I found on my own livestock !

1ER POINT /
I repeat it to you : it is not because the results are not indicated on the database that my dogs are not radio graphed ! .....
Exactly to the contrary !!!!

At one time, Quirinus, Vorss, Vhor' Gaal, Cyntia (just to one small example without forget the others) was noted in the base ...... but they has been removed and never admit again on the database. .....
I am not responsible and guilty for that……!!

For my side, I am really wearied to ask always corrections of errors , results of expos, error on the photographs of my dogs, their age, their sex ....... and never have received an answer (even by simple courtesy and politeness ).

I took for a certain time already to my side ,the VOLUNTARY action, to never point out the anomalies, and also the results of expos of my dogs !

(for a simple recent example ? : the results in Sweden (Word expo!) concerning my dogs are erroneous and incomplete)!!!

Also I do not take any more the trouble TO TRANSMIT the results of the hips of my dogs .....
It’s so easy , so simple for that! And that does not means that my dogs are not radio graphed!

Overall in evidence, they are the many gaps of W.D which you can observe and note that there aren’t due to an absence of control of my share ...... the nuance is of opposite size !

2EME POINT /
You speak about the Bonitation which my dogs did not pass
....

If you are a little bit much knowledge about what occurs now in France, you had to learn that all 1st Bonitation will take place this year (200 at the time of the NATIONALE D’ELEVAGE (the most important French meeting of CWS) programmed for this august ,2008.

If you talk about bonitation until now, you are in right !! Yes! it is exact!! My reproducers never passed their bonitations , ( like the major part of the French reproducer) because in France, it is not recognized as such ..... and that we do not need to pass this examination on the regulations of reproduction !

Until now, only the Confirmation on the standard level of the race is obligatory (with the TAN and the RX-displasye to approve the French Champion Titles and to allow the prestige of the dog).

I am not therefore against this stage of Bonitation and I belong of the people who spurred Mr. Imré Horvarth (the new President of the CBEI) for this 1st Bonitation in France ......

3EME POINT/
You speak about tests of work :

In France, the attack is not authorized (for CLTS) ......
The RCI, the Mondio-Ring, the are totally forbiden .....
Agility, the dog-cross, country race tracking, Obedience, (which however asks for a true daily work ) are not recognized to enrol dogs in working class.

Just the endurance test could open the door for workink class !!

If you want all to know, is for this reason that I work with my dogs in this direction, with the project to present them this and the next years in a foreign Eastern countries.
This because for this moment in France no body organize this kind of tests !!!!! (for CLTS).

What mentioned above, and moreover, the fact that in France does not have the same rules of the Eastern European countries (for example the level of Bonitation ) does not means that my dogs are the fruit of crossings as you seem to think it! .....
AND WORSE OF ALL, THIS HAS BEEN WRITTEN IN A PUBBLIC SITE !!!

Your position of judge would push you with more neutrality on a public Forum, because that manner and the language used gives your personality an painful impression......


note personnal : Like a judge, probably you are recognized as such (I cannot certify it because I never had expos with you .......)
like as human person , I found you rather arrogant and especially bluntish of your certainty ...

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