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Originally Posted by taloowa

May I ask who my breeder is? And why he/she is such a problem, its a bit of a insult to say something like taht.

When you chose a breeder for buy your dogs, of course you ever search for the best, I'm sure that if you don't believe in he at the time you buy your dogs, you won't buy then with this breeder.
BUT sometimes what we think and sometimes see is pretty different from reallity, sometimes a breeder wich seems make a good work in truth makes nothing more than mate dogs and sold, mix they and so on, I'm not saying that this was the case of your dogs breeder, but this is pretty common to happen.
Nobody will talk like that about a good breeder or a minimum serious person, please think about it, why nobody breeder/owner - outside UK here was against what Ina said?

Mother nature is always crossing things, with out u, and yes i agree there are a lot of idiots out there.

Mother nature is quite cruel and cold, yes, she cross things without us, she gaves lifes as she takes lifes away, sometimes in a pretty cruel way.
His selection is cruel and not allow weak and problematic animals survive, this is natural selection, kill every weak, unprepared or problematic animal, only 2 or 3 of one litter will survive t'ill mate, if mate... thank's God this selection no longer happen in dog breeds by humans, I think a pretty similar selection way was used in the formation of CzW... well know unethical.
Please, don't compare mother nature with human selection in dog breed, this is almost impossible to do now.

becuase new blood is not introduce, we are seeing it here in England alot, even with the GSD or the Labrador or with the NI, or the King Charles Spainel, they all have limited lines, and they are now all very ill.

These breeds on England are in a very different situation, I know a little bit how difficult is to bringing new bloodlines in England legally and the high ammount of things needed to send a dog to UK.
I saw too the documentary of BBC about the pedigree dogs, I agree a lot about what has been said but I think that this may not be leaved as the only truth, for UK maybe it be, but isn't over the world.
I had see some pedigrees of Cavaliers King Charlies Spaniels from UK wich shows Siringomielia and I find even mate between completly brothers wich are already comming from a pretty close imbreeding, sometimes I guess how the puppies of this litter born, no doubts mother nature fails in the selection cause mans hand, but this is pretty common to happen in dog breeding, breeding dogs not pass for natural selection as wild animals do.

People are now having to think how to get out of this and its down to us to help the breeds before they get to that stage, and that is what is happening.

Luckly thanks to this site we can easly find complet pedigree of most part of the dogs, HD and ED results, working and dogshows results, how many litter... we all knows how many lines this breed have, what's the real consanguinity situation as how the breeders are working, how make aproperlly work, who do the right, who do wrong... I'm sure that if the breeders of more popular breeds find information easly like this, these kind of problems woudn't appear, I don't think a minimally good hearted person will wish put in the world a dog with siringomielia, displasy and other illness wich ends with the dog's life quality, well, unfortunatelly we ever will find in every breed puppymills wich not cares for the dogs,puppies and so on.
People get easly informed about the real situation of the breed and so, only work wrong who don't want work more for making the things right.
The breed is pretty controled and seems have very responsible clubs in his origin countries wich do a serious work too.
When be real needed a new bloodline, surelly SK and CZ clubs will take care of it, they're responsible for the breed , they're the origin country and we must respect it waiting THEYR decision, not doing hybrids, falses pedigrees and trying to make suposed new lines because someone wants and this person listen its needed.