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Originally Posted by elf
This list exists, but is private, that's the point. And private doesn't mean harmless.
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You right - in the most cases such "private" list are much worser that the official disscusions (or even gentle "fights"). It is always s better to have the chance to disscus something in public because you can not argue with the gossips spread behind your back.
On the other hand I understand the breeders. If you are honest you loose...
Look some topics below...
I really had no problems to publish that one of dogs from my kennel is only 64 cm... The result? Because of being fair and honest I had to read pompous words written by some breedders "the dog is for nothing". Words written by breeders which have dogs with not only one fault but many serious; which have no one but more too small dogs, breed with them but they hide the reality by not making the bonitations (or writting in the bonitation code bigger size than the dogs really are) and not showing the dogs in public places where someone can see them...
The same is with HD-results. In Czech Republic the club choosed the good way and publish all HD-results. They are fair and hide nothing. But what is the result - in some cases the Czech breeders are worser evaluated than some breeders from other countries which send only good HD-result and spread the information "my puppies are much better than the Czech because in CZ some have HD and all my dogs are only HD-A or HD-B"...
I guarantee you than many puppy buyers will choose let say French kennel with 50 dogs bred where you have only 5 dogs with HD-results all of them HD-A (and maybe 10 other dogs which were tested but the results are hidden because the dogs were HD-C, HD-D and HD-E) and not the Czech kennel where the breeder has 20 puppies - 15 tested with HD-A and HD-B and let's say 3 dogs HD-C. Because in the first case they will see only HD-A results, and by the Czech kennel they will see HD-A, HD-B and HD-C...
Hiding results really works and it is also the reason why so many breeders do not want to publish all information...
So we can make some "statistics" only when all clubs will work together - we can make statistisc of HD but ONLY when we will get all official HD-results... We can not base on the sincerity of the breeders...
Sad but true...