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Originally Posted by hanninadina
It is nothing new, that the poland HD results are the most best in the world. I know this for 10 years from the briards - french herding dogs -.
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I think it depends...
I know that sometimes Dutch CzW breeders sent their results to Germany because they get better results than in Holland (HD-B in Holland and HD-A in Germany). But I know also about REAL dogs (not imagined cases) which were checked in Holland with HD-B and in Poland with HD-C.
I know dogs with hips which were HD-D in Czech Republic and HD-A in Italy (it was for a long time the reason why many dogs with HD-C or worser were sold to Italy).
BUT I know many dogs which were HD-C in Czech Republic and were still HD-C in Poland, which were HD-D in Czech Republic stayed HD-D in Italy...
I Germany you have only one judge which can official evaluate the X-rays so the results are similar. But in Holland, Czech Republic, France, Poland you have more judges which make it and don't be so astonished that there are differences between two countries when you can see VISIBLE differences between vets in one country. In German forum you can fnd some stats Margo made and the difference between two Czech vets were about 30% and between Sterc and some other it can be maybe even 50% (what mean: other vets give 50% more HD-A results that for example Sterc).
I know, every breeder say his country has the best results and the vets make the strongest evaluations. And it is not possible to make any statistics because many data is missing and many data hidden. But all we can do is to look which results have dogs in a country and to compare which results have dogs from the same country in other countries.
Jasmine said Hungary has the best evaluation, hanninadina say Poland has the worstest. So we can compare it:
- in Germany there are three dogs checked for HD from jasmines' kennel. The parents are, according to the Slovakian and Hungarian vet, HD-A and HD-B. Lets see the results of the offsprings imported to Germany.
The
BEST results has hanninadina's female Myla. It is HD-B1. The other results which the dogs get are HD-C and HD-D.
- now let's take the dogs living in Germany but imported from Poland. The parents seem to be similar evaluated as in the case first case - according to the Slovakian and Polish vet thay have HD-A and HD-B. Now compare the results of their offsprings made in Germany and evaluated by german vet.
The
WORSEST results they get is HD-B1. And all other are HD-A1 and HD-A2.
Conclusion is visible and easy to make:
The HD-evaluations of the parents made in Poland are COMPARABLE to the results of the polish dogs imported to Germany.
BUT
The HD-evaluations of the parents made in Hungary are VISIBLE BETTER than the results of the hungarian dogs imported to Germany.
And we can make the same stats with the same countries (with the same results and conclusion) for Italy and France....
I'm sure the same topic will came back soon and another breeder will say "In my country are the strongest evaluations of the hips" BUT sometimes the stats say something else....