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Old 03-08-2009, 23:34   #11
Mikael
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Mabe this will help a bit

Translation Woland´s post

"I witnessed and participated with my subject to different bonitate, type "Italian", "Czech and Slovak." In the meantime I have contacts in different environments with training dogs whose tests are practiced in different character races including Dobermann, Bovara Flemish, German Shepherd. Although each test character in any breed can be subject to criticism, all the different tests of character CzW who witnessed and participated in or have large gaps in concept that it invalidates the very end. My brief experience has led me not to trust any kind of code of any character bonitate and I work in the choice of stallion for my female, having to meet and hear any person subject, the nature of which I find often in contradicts the view expressed in the Code of bonitate.
Premise that the selection technique is to cast a code used in the selection of breeding, in this case the character, what comprises the reproductive value of a player?
1) genetic component, 2) capacity development and improvement than they inherited 3) As this subject is able to transmit its genetic quality
Except for the three that can only be established on the study of the offspring, the code selection technique should be the mirror as faithfully as possible the first two points so that its use makes sense cinotecnico. Outside these assumptions any code is sterile and empty, and this is not my opinion but livestock appliacata to cinotecnica (Robinson, Genetic Dog Breeder for 1990, Leotta, Genetic Improvement in Cinologia 2004).
The test is the Italian CAL1, the conductor with the dog on a leash is the court which shall give the assistant read the microchip (the behavior of the dog at this stage is estimated), then through the conduit in a group of people who carry in the opposite direction for two or three times and are exploded two revolver shots at the end the driver stops in the group has formed a circle. The dog is required to ignore the group and to express fear, distrust agressivité it. The operator then applies to a dog leash to ten meters per dog, and traveling a distance of about ten meters in the direction of the Revier where it can put the dog attention and prepare to the threat. At the command of a judge appearing Revier and leaves the threat head-on with the decision and his dog running at this point allows the rope to the dog's reaction. The shown can be up to a meter from the dog, not beyond. The dog must not retreat and fear expressions. In no case shall there be contact between the dog and set out.
This is a test of aptitude for work considered very valuable in environments Works Italians, especially German Shepherd and Malinois, who usually play it at a young age to have access to Class Work on display, and the overcoming of which is prerequisite for consegumento Championships of Beauty.
I think can be a very good test for CzW even if it is done within a certain age (18-20 months), the threat is carried out in accordance with best practice, and the final assessment is in line with that for which the test has been studied, namely APPROVED NOT APPROVED.
The criticism that can be moved, from my point of view, the technical selection of Italian made no sense in applying the various codes (Oc Oe Of Og) at a test designed to determine whether the dog has attitude to work or no. You can also support, and I support him in the first place, that the threats are too soft compared to the expected settlement. But on the whole, considering that many, almost all, prepare your dog to this test in training camp, the result was zero compared with the reproductive value of the subject.
The key question of my speech is that from my point of view, the test Czechs and Slovaks have zero respect for the reproductive value of the subject, then find sterile allegations of invalidity of proof that the Italian character, in itself, is a he is very good but badly implemented.
I have seen the type bonitate a Slovak Heingenbrucken in 2008. An adult female, once linked to the pole he started to scream and cry to the lady who is going to hide away at about 20 m away. The dog was left tied and out towards that direction uggiolando and calling the owner. At the first sound of approaching the subject contained in discarded laterally in the opposite direction, a little intimidated but remaining constant attention to the hiding place of the mistress. Always return to the ground the subject has completely ignored the appearing. The next approach, with very mild threat of assisted stick, the dog who now understood the safety of the subject despite the gestures of a threat (to which few would have believed dogs) had no reaction but to distract him for a second hiding from the gaze of the lady to stick shaken shyly.
Signs that can give such a test? Simply that the dog has a fanatical devotion to the owner, so strong that it invalid any other type of account. If you have weighed the threat was probably triggered a response of self (normal for any dog, to assess the threshold of reaction, but the reaction of self can not be considered courage), or a total denied, there are rare cases of dogs which do not react well beaten.
This test has given me a lot on the result of environmental changes from the subject, but the signs on the genotype of the subject are fairly generalized and scarce, especially if we consider that the subject was evaluated as Of, or a dog that should have balance and courage for sale, a dog that could also give some results in Utility and Defense. For me, that dog in that trial has not demonstrated, primarily because the evidence failed to prove it! For my personal opinion, a CzW for a Code Of faces a threat cinotecnicamente respectable.
If the Czech evidence from what I saw, and what I was told, the threat is always done in an acceptable manner, there remains the thorny issue of the pole. Would most likely testing the pole as a turning point in the Dobermann ZTP, in which this test was adopted to eliminate the players from playing too sensitive, responsive and lack of solid (which is not to say frightening). ZTP in assessing the balance of the dog and that he has a threshold and a balance in relation to the action of self-defense. Or the dog must not react. But the proof is quite different from that in CzW, the dog is never threatened.
The dog is tied to the pole, and left alone for at least 5 minutes in you should have the feeling that they only care that I have not seen adottatto ne da ne Czechs from Slovaks in the pole test.
After these 5 minutes the judge approaches the dog and in its discretion makes gestures, even rash but never threatened to assess whether the dog is just too sensitive and nevrile like a gun ready to fire at all. Usually opens an umbrella, dropped the block-notes, all a bit sudden gestures but never directly threatened. If the dog reacts to say that is too sensitive and / or insecure, the dog should rightly be careful all'estraneo, which makes strange things, but not to react because no threat is carried out. This is an excellent assessment of the threshold of self-defense, usually the most common cause of canine scathing, of balance and strength of character that should have a dog for working standards.
The classic test of pole is on the one hand by the fact that the dog is being approached and when the dog is completely in focus towards the boss, and knows almost exactly where you are. Under the threat of the dog alone tends to bring a response of self (I have seen several dogs with teeth move out while they were alone, while the owner just reacting), or an attempt to escape. It 'just a threat to the well-run dog with conductor to see the courage of a dog, any technical field training that can be said!
Another consideration is that a character test performed on a dog often of 2-3 years (often prepared to test, regardless of whether it is Czech, Slovak or Italian) make at least the possibility of assessing the genetic component than in the environment / evolutionary, but we know if that is predominant phenotypic expression, the first one is worthy of greater consideration in choosing a player.
Last consideration is that among all circles of CzW there is no agreement on what should be the dog even if the standard some indication from him. If you have to be (now it is not, but I think it has huge potential especially as a dog search and track) a working dog, the character test should be of aptitude tests or tests of real work to overcome it and go, only so we reach the goal. You must get to a funnel where the dogs spend only improvement predisposed to this effect, otherwise it is useless to look to CzW as a utility dog, how are things going now, in any country, will not ever, if not in some subject well-prepared than the average will have the good fortune to have a boss that you apply for conversion."

Regards / M
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