Thread: Elbow Dysplasia
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Old 24-08-2009, 23:16   #4
Juniorwolf
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if you remove dogs with results worser than HD-A you will loose a lot of interesting blood. If you remove all dogs with ED-problems you loose NOTHING.

It is simple calculation.
The problem with this is just that you have no idea if dogs without ED results, have ED 2/2 or worse, but still they are on the studdoglist, only because the owners did not care to test their dogs or tested their dogs but did not make it official, so in a way you reward people who don`t test or hide the results from public and punish people who do test and makes it official, I really don`t like that thought

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In many countries the breeders can do whatever they want. They can breed (and they do) with HD-E dogs, with dogs without pedigrees, with wrong bites, epileptic, with missing testicles or so called Mutaras. But I hope you understand it is not a way of responsible breeding which should be advertised here on Wolfdog.
And you honestly think it is better to reward people not to test their dogs, so they will not be removed from the list here on wolfdog.org ? ...shame on you

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One thing you can not change: dog with ED 1-1 is not a heathly dog. The same case are dogs with heart problems, epilepsy, eye problem and any genetical faults. A responsible breeders will not breed with such dog and will not look for excuses like "but other breeders do not check it". MAYBE other dogs are not heathly also but dogs with diagnosed genetic illness are not healthy FOR SURE.
If it really is that importent, why do you allow people to advertise for dogs who are not tested(or not officially tested) for ED, when you don`t allow dogs who are not officially tested for HD ? ...to me that is pretty strange

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I know it is painfull information for you because as I see Voice is half-brother of your dogs
I really don`t see how this information can be painfull for me ? Uno is officially tested for all possible diseases(HD, ED, Eye diseases and Pituitary dwarfism) Xtreme too(except HD and ED as he need to be 18month before making the xrays) and they are both free/healthy(Uno have HD B).
I test my dogs more than most people

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I hope you will understand this steps because according to the information written on Internet we can really cause visible improvement of the ED-results in some lines if we will remove not healthy dogs.
I really don`t think so, all you achieve by these steps, is people stop testing their dogs, because then no one can remove the unhealthy dogs from the list and you will be in absolutly same place as you started or in an even worse place ...without people testing their dogs, you don`t even have a possibility to choose to use a dog without ED, because nobody knows if the dogs will have it ! ....sorry, but your politics and assumptions sucks, in my humble opinion !

Rolf

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