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Originally Posted by saschia
But with bonitation we don't want to see self-defence, we want to see how the dog evaluates the situation on its own. Self-confident dog with stable character may react in different ways to the attack (whether weak or strong) but should not evaluate contact as attack even if it was attacked previously by the same person... Instinct says to the dog when to run and when to fight if it considers the situation dangerous, but the character says how it will evaluate the situation...
I like weak attack better myself because it better shows the evaluation by the dog - it is easy to evaluate the strong attack as danger allways, but with weak attack lots of self-confident dog evaluate the situation as only potentially dangerous and show the good stability of their character, not attacking prematurely.
BUT, even if attack on a tied dog is not allowed in Italy, I bet they cannot forbid contact of tied dog with owner absent, and that might show a lot about the character, even bringing it close to the Slovak and Czech bonitation. There you can see already how the dog evaluates the situation. Because shy dog will not allow contact, or will shy away from it, while stable dog will either ignore or be positive about it.
I do not understand your mention of politics. As far as I know, the Slovak and Czech bonitations, althogh different, are acknowledged by our breeding commitees. We do not acknowledge the Italian bonitation, for reasons I stated previously, there is no situation where the dog will be evaluating a situation on its own.
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Hi Saschia, mention of politic are not about your post ( with seriuos consideration) but about more other post!
I understand is no possible for you recognized Italian Bonitation for big differences, my dog's have on the same time Czech/Slovak bonitation and Italian bonitation. But i think is better to think a new test for all.
Yes, test with dog at pole without owner, and without threat is recognized, on ZTP test (recognized bt ENCI for Dobermann and Rottweiler) there are a pole test, on my reply (n°53) on this thread i explane this. On this test we can know self-defense border line, and is very important on all breed than have sensible character.
With threat the dog at the pole, i think is so dificult to distinguish how the reaction come from primary istinct (self denfence/drain), or real character of dog...primary istinct are on all dog, on all animal world and are not important for character selection because selection can doing minimun change on this...is a very complex debate, but i think is necessary to talk about this to evolve character test for CZW.