[z Peronówki]

Originally Posted by hanninadina

Margo, what happened? I like you very much because you do a lot for csw and bringing csw people together. But why the hell are you fighting for years against Monika? Monika is completly right that is sounds light jealousy of you!!!!

Christian, dont't discredit yourself.... Or you really wanna tell us that Monika is spreading the information about health problems by Zlata palz because she admire and like Michael so much? That she is putting photos of Crying Wolf dogs (Waldo) as example of untypical CzW int he Hartl commentary on her page (PAGE OF FCI JUDDE)? Why do you think she attacks all Crying Wolf offsprings ("Czech jackals") living in Czech Republic so much? Why she hate Slovakian dogs so much?
Because she is so nice, and friendly, and peaceful person...

Why I fight against her? You are talking about the mutts called Mutaras? And Monikas "work"? You have a problem because whole Slovakian Club is "fighting" agains Monika sice they stopped and banned the mixes. You have a problem because whole Czech Club is "fighting" agains Monika and exactly Czech owners were these who removed her from the Club board. You have a problem because many breeders get alergy when thay hear her name.... Why....? "Because she is so nice, and friendly, and peaceful person..."?

Originally Posted by hanninadina

Of course people like Ina and Michael Eichorn has nothing else to do, but you are not so, I thought. So what is your personal problem?

If Michael want to clarify the lies told by Monika it is only because he has nothing to do? And about me - it is PUBLIC forum where EVERYBODY can write his own opinion. If not... that tell us: " So what is your personal problem?". Or maybe you have "nothing else to do"?

Originally Posted by hanninadina

Eichhorns have to keep their mouth close! They produce so much ill csw in germany, but nobody is talking about. What about Caya Zlata Paltz? She tried for years to get puppies! But nothing happend! Experienced male dogs tried to make puppies, but no puppies.

And? I hope one day Caya will have puppies. She is really a nice female with many titles and know in the CzW world. Is someone here ENVY?

Originally Posted by hanninadina

Why did offspring of your breeding dogs died due to illness giving from the grandparents?

My dear "Monika's friend" - before you also spread around gossips about genetical illnesses in the Zlata palz kennel I hope you have REALLY good proofs. Because there are so many gossips - untrue and offending other breeders that you really break any limits...

Originally Posted by hanninadina

Sorry Margo, I saw Api working several times and a dog with HD D is not able to work like this! I have a son from Api. And he is so incredible fast in movement and jumping that although I did not make hd exrays I can confirm that he is a healthy 4 year old male csw.

Are you joking? He is healthy because your Utala z Molu Es is 4 years old and still can move? And jump... There is long time gone since I saw such lack of knowledge about hip and elbow dypslasia.... Why do you think the people make x-rays? Because it is the ONLY possiblity to see if the dog is ill or not.

Api is healthy because she can work. And Utala is heathly because he jump? There is one man in Poland - owner of a 5 years old female who is walking nice. She passed even in Slovakia the 40km run with the very good note. Some months later he made the x.rays. Result: HD-E. Not even HD-E bacause it is not strong dysplasia but the dog do not have hips at all!!!

Originally Posted by hanninadina

Margo I am very disappointed of you. Your whole breeding starts with Jolly and Merry Bell z Molu Es. I can not understand why you are acting like you do! Monika has vey succesful puppies in her whole breed. You need some more 10 years to reach her level, sorry to say!

I hope I will never reach such level... I will not even try...
Monika ow "her name" to Amalka od Bulizniku. She was the mother of the healthy, nice and famous dogs "z Molu Es". Sorry but the "new style" promoted by z Molu Es it something far away from dogs from that times....

Originally Posted by hanninadina

from my point of view your puppies and offspring could be more wolf like!

Christian - I get from the german breeders the text you wrote after you visited Pozna 2 years ago. I must disappoint you - the small, not wolfish dogs which you saw there were... from Czech Republic... So next time when you will come here - just take your Utala z Molu Es and see all the much more wolfsih dogs which you will meet in Pozna. As the owners for names...

Originally Posted by hanninadina

Today my wife and me watched a movie about the yellow stone park. They showed a grey canid and my wife said oh look now you saw your wolf. I reapeted that was a coyote. Ok?

Do you wonder? You have a black wolf at home. I see for you wife (but also for me) black wolf do not look wolfish. Even coyotes are better...

Originally Posted by hanninadina

Wolves are not 65 cm. They start from 70 cm. There is so much literature about russian wolves. Please read "Wolves in Russia". Than you maybe understand that breeding around 60 cm for females and 65 for males is far away from wolf standard! And saying a csw male should be at leat 65 cm does not mean that she should be 65 cm.

Yes, and in Canada the wolves are sometimes 80cm. And whales are even bigger...
But what it has to do with EUROPEAN Wolves. Did you really saw any? I suggest you not to watch photos and look movies but to visit some wolfparks, visit Bialowieza, Stobnica, visit the ZOOs in Czech Republic. Many great pack you will find in Poland - Wroclaw, Bydgoszcz, Krakow. You wrote you know Zoltán. Did you ever saw his wolves? Here is an adult male from his park:
http://www.wolfdog.org/pics2/2007/7/...01-1876390.jpg
He is typical representative of the most wolves I saw. He is maybe the size of Jolly. FEMALE Jolly.

Here you have the European Wolves from ZOO Prague:
http://www.wolfdog.org/pics2/2009/11...09-4610577.jpg
Adult male wolf and a CzW "puppy" (7 months)

And for better comparision - back of female CzW (62,5 cm on youth presentation) and the adulf alfa wolf behind

I like high dogs. Or very high (but only if they are also TYPICAL of course). But I saw MANY European Wolfves, from MANY parts of Europe and I can only say: Your words about European Wolves starting from 70 cm are rubbish.

Originally Posted by hanninadina

And pleading for Eligio, he is nothing z Pernowki, he is z Molus es and his father.

You created our own reality... Everybody knows that nobody will know z Peronowki if I would hear to Monika's advices and cover Jolly with the male which Monika liked. Paula is right - just imagine the puppies of Jolly and Cagi, Argos, Doran or Sokoli oko. Brrr.....I get goose pimples....
Or maybe better said - if I would follow the advices of Monika I would have puppies in the Asian Ovtscharka style - type which Monika is promoting on her page.

And please do not even try to award Monika what she didn't do - Eligo is son of Jolly - in the type of Amalka OD BULIZNIKU. But he is Slovakian style.

Originally Posted by hanninadina

He is aggressiv like Myla and in todays world it is not good even so they have character.

Myla agressive? Sorry but she is the best dog you can imagine. She has stable character from her mother - Mona z Krotkosveho dvora. Don't you think that the Wolfdogs with normal character are just behind your capabilities? Maybe it is the reason why you gave Myla away? That the problems are not in the dogs but in your personality? That you can hadle only shy dogs and all other are too much for you and considered "agressive" (because they show theeth when they are playing )?

Everybody can have his own opinion - many people saw Myla (for example in Lazne Belohrad), many saw Eligo (for example in Bratislava) and sorry if such type is "agressive" for you - you should change the breed because ALL TYPICAL WOLFDOGS are not dogs with character which you can accept or handle...

Originally Posted by hanninadina

Please calm down. And everything you know keep it in your house and not in this forum. I talked a lot with Monika why you, Margo, attack her so much, it is totaly unnecassary.

Christian, now read the thread carefully. One breeder/owner from Poland started a topic. What was the answer? Was Monika answering any questions? No, she started to "fight back". Or better said to "bite blind around". All she is able to see was the name "Margo" even if almost all my answers to Anita had nothing to do with her.
She is ignoring any questions, ignoring Michael, ignoring anybody else. All she is able to register in the madness is the word "Margo".

But all I can repeat is:

Originally Posted by Margo

I know you [Monika] have problem with me since long time... You have problem with Czech Club, Czech breeders, Slovakian Club, slovakian breeders,... or maybe it would be much easier to list the group which is not problematic for you. The reason is: you are attacking without thinking. Biting not people who "deserve it" but people who you don't like. If you have problems in Czech Republic - Pavel is Responsible. If you have problems in Poland - Margo is responsible.... Wake up! And try to find our what is your REAL problem...

Originally Posted by hanninadina

Massimo I wish really that you sometimes would speak open about all you know. It is now a lot less than a few years ago, but you have a good well meaing opinion. But you can not keep out your opinion in all cases. You are friend of Monika. You want to be friend of Michael Eichhorn? Better not.

Christian - open your eyes. And let Massimo have his OWN opinion. I do not wonder that he is not protecting Monika and her fight with "jackals". Why? Massimo owns two of them - one nice jackal from Crying Wolf and one nice jackal from Zlata palz... You saw for sure great photos of both females on the English forum - other people like them even in Monika is turnign crazy when she see such dogs...