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Old 04-02-2010, 14:27   #4
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Originally Posted by saschia View Post
Good question! I can only address the one about whether a dog that is left to decide for himself might not turn dangerous - in my opinion, the ideal training for working CSV would be to teach it commands and to teach it about different circumstances and ways of dealing with them. Then, the dog will be left to decide not entirely what to do, but which of the learned things to use in a given circumstance. So it depends on what kind of responses you teach the dog, and whether you cover all the possible situations to show the dog which response should be preffered.

An example - friend's male Cane Corso was quite friendly towards people, but then tended to jump on them. So she taught him, that he is supposed to be friendly to people she greets in some way, because they can respond properly and help her get rid of the jumping while still being friendly and enthusiastic, but other people he was supposed to basically ignore. The dog responded not to the command, but to the situation.
I totally agree about the training, and that's a very good point I hadn't thought of. I guess one should still always be a bit wary in certain situations, but it may not be as bad as I'm thinking in my head, with a proper owner/trainer. I'm curious, though, what one would do to test the dog's behavior, though, since dog protection sports require a fair amount of discipline that one wouldn't expect out of a CsV when competing against breeds like GSDs. See below...



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Originally Posted by Pavel View Post
Only little correction :



Its not true. You read somewhere maybe about using CsW as "SUP" (samostatně útočící pes - independently attacking dog), but it was only small part of using and its have nothig to do with tracing. Its a clearly work in corridor (like in concetrations camps in WWII, some prisons or strategic military objects). And here (on slovak-austrian border), was not using single dogs, but always a pack.
Mostly using were normally work with handler on border by tracing and stoping people, who want go over border illegaly. By CsW is very important contact and work together with handler.
Ok, so CsVs WERE meant to work with handlers (I love learning more about the history, here, it can be hard to find good sources on-line!) but from what I understand, aren't CsVs still supposed to have more of an independent temperament? Even if it's possible for CsVs to compete in dog sports, wouldn't they be at a disadvantage? Also, if you based your breeding program around the dogs that excelled at it, wouldn't you indirectly be breeding for the wrong temperament? What exactly is it that makes a CsV different from a GSD temperament wise, and how would one go about testing it accurately? I guess that's a better way of putting my original question.
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