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Old 13-03-2010, 16:08   #10
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AKC does not recognize UKC as a registry (from the beginning, they were rivals - AKC focused on conformation, UKC on working potential). UKC also recognizes breeds that AKC (and in some cases, FCI) does not recognize - the American Pitbull Terrier being a big one, as well as the White GSD (or Berger Blanc Suisse). However, UKC recognizes pedigrees from AKC. Sonia, not quite sure what the answer to your dilemma is, at least for the AKC. It might be worth checking with the FCI/kennel club in Puerto Rico - as they are a US territory, they will register dogs for the US - since Flint's parents were both FCI, maybe that is a possibility? Once FCI, he could register with AKC. Co-ownership should be no problem, since Flint resides in the US, as long as Daniel agrees. As for UKC...something might be possible there, let me do some investigating. Didn't Daniel title his female in Canada? Or was that through CFC...

Another possibility is that both registries might look to pedigrees recognized by the US breed club (with time)...but we have to consider what other cans of worms that might open in the US in the long run (i.e - mixed breeds, acceptance of CSVs without pedigrees from questionable breedings, etc.)

Forgot to mention this in the last post - when I asked FSS about the requirements for AKC to recognize/list a breed club on their website, and as part of their previous requirements for performance/companion events, they said they needed contact information for all members. That is about where I left off in 2008 - several people didn't feel comfortable handing over their info to AKC (who clearly uses it for marketing, as well), and I certainly was not about to jump that boundary. But now that we are gaining a bit of momentum...maybe we have some "sacrificial" owners/fanciers who don't mind their info being listed.

Take the time to look at websites for some of the other FSS breeds, particularly the ones with smaller numbers. They kind of give you an idea of where our next steps might lead. One breed I have really looked up to and modeled after is the Berger Picard (Picardy Shepherd - remember the movie "Because of Winn-Dixie?"). Their parent club is also based out of VA - really cool people, with similar goals and expectations - fun to hang out with at the UKC shows on this side of the country too!

It is illegal to own or breed "hybrids" in many states, others leave governance to individual towns/cities. In my county, you must have special permits (lots of hoop-jumping) to own any type of dangerous/wild animal - special insurance must be obtained, enclosures, etc. That is very common, and probably the norm in most places that don't have an outright ban. It's why I wanted our name converted back to Vlcak. Wolfdog, in our language in the US, has too many conatations. I always stick with the HSUS F5 ideaology, and of course, having pedigrees is a big fallback, too. And then: PR, PR, PR!!! How we present the breed here will determine it's fate in the US - good publicity is always good, of course. But at the same time, we don't want people fantacizing/rationalizing about the breed anymore than they already do. The old adage: They aren't for everyone!

We used to be Ceskoslovensky VLACK with UKC for a long time (wish we could have kept the Ceskoslovensky part...thanks AKC)- I think I own the only championed VLACK in the whole world (according to my certificate and pedigree).

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