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Originally Posted by saschia
I like Margo's articles on the showing, but there is one thing wrong and one which I don't agree with. The correct posture of the hind legs is with the hock joint being exactly under the "ischial tuberosity" - the end of pelvis.
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What you write is correct. But the photo is correct too....
I fully agree with you with one exception:
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Originally Posted by saschia
The hock are usually not in the right angle with the floor.
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IF the dog will have the right angulation than the hock joint will EXACTLY under the "ischium".
Usually it is not with the right angle because USUALLY the dogs have wrong angulation (in the most cases they are overangulated - with the angulation more or less similar to these of German Shepherd Dogs).
I wrote these articles a VERY long time ago
when it was really hard to get any good photos. In this case the goal was to show
the right angles when you show the dog and not
the right angulation of the Wolfdog.
It is very young female with overangulation typical for young dogs..
Now I plan to reedit all of them and not only post better photos but fix some parts which are not clear enough....
To see the angulation of the dog it must be standing in the show position which I showed - the legs MUST be vertical to the ground. Of course a judge will be able to judge the legs even if the dog is not standing in the right possition because you always can see if the angulation is OK or not.
Here you have two examples:
FIRST (the photo is not perfect because it is also almost a puppy
but at the moment I have no time to look for better one - anyway it is visible what I mean
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Here you can see the right (show) position of the legs & the right (standard) angulation. As written in the standard: "An imaginary vertical line drawn from the point of the ischium, would run midway through the hock joint." )
SECOND:
Here you have also the case that the line comming from the ischum goes through the hock joint BUT the legs are not vertical to the ground. WHY? Because of bad angulation - if you would move the legs to the "show possion" you will have to move them very far to the back. What you will get would be an angulation of a German Shepherd Dog. Really bad angulation of a Wolfdog.
Simply said: if the legs of a dog are standing so that the line comming from the ischum goes through the hock joint BUT the legs are NOT vertical to the ground it means only one:
the angulation is wrong.
Now all people will for sure check their dogs
- but the true is pretty sad: really only few Wolfdogs have PERFECT angulation. Most of CzWs are a little bit overangulated - it is not a huge problem if the breeders will make the proper selection. But SAD is that even the extremly overangulated dogs also never get worser notes on the bonitations, dog shows, aso...(In only few cases I saw that a judge gave J5 on the bonitation or worser note on the dogs show. In the most cases the dogs was judges as perfect even if it was angulation like a RABBIT
). Really: almost nobody cares (nobody knows?) about the real angulation of the dogs... And it is the reason for pretty bad situation in this area. It is really worth to start to select it because it have huge influence on the movement (only dog with typical angulation moves like typical CzW). But also the endurance of our dogs depend on it.
And for the end - two photos of the wolves with a nice angulation and (almost) show position....
