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Originally Posted by massimo
???? se non viene assegnato un giudice "ufficialmente" non viene considerata valida la NOSTRA bonitazione in Cechia??
Anche se il giudice era la signora Simackova e Jedlicka??
...brrrrr... ho i brividi, ti prego Margo, parla se ne sei sicura please!!
massimo
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No, no - all I say it was not Czech or Slovakian bonitation. To be clear - there are two types of bonitation:
- "official club bonitation of origin country"
- national bonitation
The first is made according the rules of Czech or Slovakian Club. The bonitation must be made by at last three people: recognized judge, member of the breeding comittee and bonitation compere. Mrs. Simackova is a judge (Mr. Jednicka no more as far I know). But none of them are member of the Czech breeding comittee. So it was not "official Czech bonitation". Such type of bonitations are made not only in CZ and SK but also in Poland and Germany.
The second type are national bonitations (if a country has CLC club and it decide to make bonitation and will make special regulations for it). Such bonitation looks sometimes different (I mean here the character test) but it can be recognized if the judgement of the character is made on the same level (can be compared with results which you get during the CZ or SK bonitations). So it is the reason why f.e. the Swiss bonitation is recognized and the national German bonitation is not recognized by the origin clubs (the new character test in Germany is much easier - too easy).
If you say the Italian character test is similar to the Czech or Slovakian so I think it will be recognized without any problems - but it is better to ask the Czech and Slovakian Clubs directly....and get official answer...
About the character test - it is funny thing

To be honest you don't need to make very complicated tests

- it is really easy to valuate a character of a dog already after some minuts: it is enough to see how the dog react to other people, other dogs, shooting, how it behaves during the measurement, aso. After it you can be already able to give him code for the character.
BUT... something like this would be too much subjective. There would be too many protests of people which will say: "My dog was judged wrong - I need proves that he/she has such character". So it is the problem why the clubs made some rules and judge according the rules: if a dog react like this .... it gets the code ...., if a dog reacts like this it get the code....

So you can take different tests but the goal is only one: to determine the
"real" character type of a dog (the codes are not made ony for CLC - the are used by many other breeds).