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Silvester · 16-07-2011, 09:27

Originally posted by Nebulosa:

"We can simply kick out the breed standard, that's why dogshows are mere fun."

Yeah, in principle, I agree to you - if these shows are not judged by a special judge for our race , I would like to add ! Sure, also special judges are not Jesus Christ and they can make mistakes ... But that can not be compared in any way to the results of dogshows which are judged by "non-specialists"! ( As we all are able to see .)

Originally posted by Nebulosa:

"I hope now people will have a bit of shame on their faces and stop to tell titles of dogshows as as way to try to proof the "qualities" of their dogs, as I see people often doing."

But what else can you choose to show the quality of your dog ?

There is no test on abilities and working quality at the moment , what is NEEDED to be made for Cwd ....and that´s a big mistake I think.

The 40km or 100 km test CAN be made but it need not be - as we all know. And even that would show only some physical qualities of the dogs but not the working abilities.

So what people can do , if they want to show their dogs quality??

In fact there are ONLY the show -results at the moment ... yeah, that´s a pity, no question !

May be the bonitation codes and the hd- results are a little more serious and tell more about the dog - but how many dogs have both ? So it should be a MUST that you have let made both for your dog before going to a show and before it´s possible to tell even anything about quality...!

Best greetings to Brazil, Uli alias Silvester

16-07-2011, 09:27	#74
Silvester Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 369	Originally posted by Nebulosa: "We can simply kick out the breed standard, that's why dogshows are mere fun." Yeah, in principle, I agree to you - if these shows are not judged by a special judge for our race , I would like to add ! Sure, also special judges are not Jesus Christ and they can make mistakes ... But that can not be compared in any way to the results of dogshows which are judged by "non-specialists"! ( As we all are able to see .) Originally posted by Nebulosa: "I hope now people will have a bit of shame on their faces and stop to tell titles of dogshows as as way to try to proof the "qualities" of their dogs, as I see people often doing." But what else can you choose to show the quality of your dog ? There is no test on abilities and working quality at the moment , what is NEEDED to be made for Cwd ....and that´s a big mistake I think. The 40km or 100 km test CAN be made but it need not be - as we all know. And even that would show only some physical qualities of the dogs but not the working abilities. So what people can do , if they want to show their dogs quality?? In fact there are ONLY the show -results at the moment ... yeah, that´s a pity, no question ! May be the bonitation codes and the hd- results are a little more serious and tell more about the dog - but how many dogs have both ? So it should be a MUST that you have let made both for your dog before going to a show and before it´s possible to tell even anything about quality...! Best greetings to Brazil, Uli alias Silvester Last edited by Silvester; 16-07-2011 at 09:32.