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Originally Posted by Admin
There are red puppies born. IT IS A FACT. The b-colour NEVER existed by our breed. SECOND FACT. The parents of the red puppies are Crying Wolf CsW. THIRD FACT. And the Saarloos was/is living by the CW breeder is another fact.
I really undserstand the problem of Galiba-offspring owners BUT if we will not solve the problem NOW in few years we will have MUCH MORE "Galiba" offsprings. What will happend when (new) DNA tests will show that some offsprings of Galiba are Saarloos crossees? NOBODY WILL ASK THE OWNERS - nobody will care. The dogs - ALL OF THEM - will lose the pedigrees.
Do you want to be one of the people who will be responsible for it? We NOT.
The whole problem looks like this: you are trying to protect Galiba-offsprings owners. There is the possiblity that some of the dogs are mixes - and some not. It seems that some of them are kept for "guilty" deservedly.
What we are trying to do is to protect purebreed CsW-breeders. They do not want to breed mixes - and they really ask to mark ALL suspicious lines. Because they don't want to use ANY possible mixes. It is not about not using the CW dogs or dogs from any other kennels. But abnout not using any untypical dogs which can be a mix.
If you will ask the breeders you will consider that there was no such casee for MANY years in Germany, Czech Republic or Slovakia. The same apply as far I know to Lithuania and Poland. It was sure that the dogs bred there are pure. But now also this pure populations can be destroyed - "thanks" to the French and Hungarian mixes.
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Now I ask this question:
Are you sure that there is no other red puppies in other farms but these farms have not declared the puppies to avoid being put in default?
I've seen in other races unreported atypical color not to be excluded from probgrammes dde selection with the fear of being misjudged.
I highly doubt that e is only the fault of the French and Hungarian, sorry ...
seen the mess that it has a transaprence from a French breeder, I highly doubt that another breeder make such a statement one day seamlessly, because even me, if such a thing happened, I do not show everyone. I have two more of Galiba down, so more reason not to other descendants in the Tourment.
by against, what I would do is a DNA test with the search for gene "B" on my four dogs and do my comparison.
as I put on a French post, looking at best practice, the possibility of a marriage to some accidental Dvorak (the Saarloos) would represent more than one dog on worries Because of this litter were born 3 males but only one has reproduced Sibir and if this is the case( sirius and siegfried and reported no puppies), you can pay tribute to the farm that has been transparent, because with this statement, we could isolate the problem now and not in 10 years.
before condemning all the descendants of Galibi, do not you think it would be simpler to test in the first place the marriage with flash crying wolf?